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2025-12-23 All Hands #56

@joecastiglione

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Agenda

  • 11C "competitive" approach
  • Midyear assessment

Meeting Notes

Key Discussion Topics

1. Phase 11C Competitive Approach

Background: Follow-up on consortium member discussions about bringing Phase 11C scoping to conclusion. An email was distributed to all consultants outlining a hybrid procurement approach.

Proposed Approach:

  • Some tasks assigned to incumbent consultants
  • Some tasks have an identified consultant, but consortium open to proposals from other consultants
  • Some tasks fully competitive with multiple consultants invited to propose

Timeline Decision:

  • Original deadline: January 9th (3 weeks from email)
  • REVISED DEADLINE: January 23rd (approved during meeting to accommodate holidays and TRB)
  • Goal: Execute all task orders by end of January/mid-February

Rationale for Competitive Process:
The consortium seeks clearer scope definition, technical approaches, and level-of-effort estimates upfront rather than extended collaborative scoping discussions that is proving to be inefficient for Phase 11C.

Data Model / Model Documentation Example: Discussion highlighted inefficient scoping process where task evolved through multiple conversations from "we have to wait until 2.x to define data model" to "we can test developing a data model for trip model only" to "we should develop full 1.X data model", while in parallel the "model documentation / data dictionary" scoping effort seemed to overlap with data model efforts.

2. Mid-Year Assessment

Administrative Transition to Zephyr Foundation

Positives:

  • Generally smooth transition from AMPO
  • Most agency relationships finalized successfully
  • No major issues with contracting or task orders

Areas for Improvement:

  • One agency still has outstanding agreements and payment
  • One agency outstanding payment only
  • Invoice processing experienced delays initially due to distributed review workflow
  • Zephyr implementing weekly accounting meetings to improve payment timeliness

Team Structure Evaluation

Current Structure:

  • Executive Team (Tuesday, rotating every 3rd week)
  • Product & Community Team (Tuesday, rotating every 3rd week)
  • All-Hands (Tuesday, rotating every 3rd week)
  • Engineering Team (Thursday, weekly)

Feedback on Product & Community Team:

  • Agency experience-sharing sessions well-received and informative
  • Increased agency engagement compared to previous phases
  • Decision: Continue agency presentations every 3 weeks, assign schedule in advance
    • Agencies can present updates, special topics, performance issues, or any topic (not just model updates)

Concerns Raised:

Overlap Between Exec and All-Hands:

  • Both meetings covering similar ground
  • Suggestion to combine / eliminate one
  • Consultants unclear on their role in executive committee

Product / Community Team Clarification Needed:

  • Less defined scope compared to engineering team
  • Limited activity outside formal meetings (unlike engineering team's ongoing work)
    • Scoping / task order discussions and coordination
    • Invoice reviews
  • Question of whether consultants should be formal members

Engineering Team Role Under 11C:

  • Consultants questioned engineering team's role when tasks assigned to specific firms
  • Joe requested additional information on why competitive process for assigning tasks affects engineering team's technical review process
  • Discussion about how to coordinate technical reviews across teams

3. Workflow and Deliverable Review Process

Consultant Questions:

  • Who reviews and accepts deliverables?
  • What is the approval workflow between teams?
  • How many review layers (engineering, product, executive)?

Proposed Workflow (Not Finalized):

  1. Work completed by assigned consultant/team
  2. Engineering team provides technical review
  3. Product & community team evaluates work products and invoices
  4. Executive team makes final approval based on recommendations

Outstanding Issues:

  • Process not yet tested with larger, more complex tasks
  • Need to establish a process for product / community team to oversee individual tasks in Phase 11C
    • Individual P/C member?
    • Subset of P/C members?
    • Staff from a single agency?
  • Concern about "finish line" definition and budget risk if multiple review layers request changes
  • Well-defined scopes and budgets required to ensure "finish line" / deliverables are well-defined

4. Key Distinctions: Phase 11B vs 11C

Phase 11B Tasks:

  • Small, well-defined issues ($4,000-$6,000 range)
  • Clear approach to resolution
  • Low ambiguity in execution
  • Successfully used collaborative "planning poker" budgeting

Phase 11C Tasks:

  • Larger scope ($40,000-$60,000 range)
  • Multiple potential technical approaches
  • Higher complexity and ambiguity
  • Examples: data model documentation, telecommute model implementation, application analysis guide

Implication: Collaborative scoping methods that worked for 11B may not scale to 11C's complexity, supporting the competitive proposal approach.

Decisions Made

  1. Deadline Extension: Consultant proposals for Phase 11C tasks due January 23rd (extended from January 9th)
  2. Agency Presentations: Continue every 3 weeks with pre-assigned schedule allowing flexible content
  3. Team Structure Review: Ongoing discussion about combining/eliminating executive and all-hands meetings

Action Items

  1. Zephyr Foundation: Send follow-up email confirming January 23rd deadline
  2. Zephyr Foundation: Distribute meeting notes promptly to all participants
  3. All Participants: Submit feedback on team structure and workflow concerns
  4. Consortium Members: Consider recommendations about team membership (agency vs. consultant roles)
  5. Product Team: Develop process for assigning oversight of individual Phase 11C tasks

Open Questions

  • Should executive and all-hands meetings be combined?
  • What is the optimal consultant role on executive and product teams?
  • How should deliverable review workflow be structured for larger Phase 11C tasks?
  • How to balance collaborative engagement with clear scope definition and budget certainty?

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