Stubborn Invisibility

[Empyr]

Hey james, I posted on steam for some help then later realized this is the place to be.

So I noticed previously someone mentioned the whole Invisible text screen bug and you marked it as "unable to replicate" I'm not sure if I'm having the exact same problem as the other guy but this is something to consider I think.

When I place a screen onto a prop, then perma prop the prop, and make the text screen permanent.. All of the sudden the text screen becomes Invisible but only when the perma-prop is behind it.. So now I have a huge tutorial that no longer serves a purpose cause nobody can see the text screens as they are invisible when they're in front of the props behind them!

Would appreciate help ASAP as we're just about to launch our server and I want to include this tutorial as I believe it's important! Thanks in advanced brotha

[Empyr]

Wasn't the easiest thing to explain so if I didn't get it through the first time I'll try again -

I have a prop, then I place the text screen on the prop.. All is good. I decide to perma-prop the prop I have the text screen on cause I'm happy with it and BOOM! The text screen becomes invisible only when the perma prop is behind it. It works perfectly fine 90% of the time but I just stumbled upon this issue.

I've considered adding -dxlevel 95 to my launch settings but that only fixes my problem. If i have this tutorial here and nobody but me can see it I'm just going to delete this massive work of art lol

[Empyr]

Note: Sometimes it shows, sometimes it doesn't it depends on the angle I look at it but even from straight on and very reasonable angles the main one I want people to see is completely invisible!

[Dellkan]

A video and/or multiple images showing what you describe above would be helpful.

Running -dxlevel 95 is something you should do even if it's not a viable permanent solution: It'll allow us to learn whether it helps, and thus, whether or not it is related. We have to understand the technicalities of the issue before we can fix it.

If you know of a way to consistently reproduce the issue, that would be helpful as well (also note whatever relevant addons are in play).

[Empyr]

Note: I jumped, and when I jumped they rendered differently. In the motion of jumping i noticed the text screen became visible for a second. So I noclipped and held my maximum jump height and realized when I was at jumping height distance It re-rendered all my text screens. All of the sudden the 1 text screen that was invisible is now the 1 text screen I can see, and the rest are invisible so....

[Empyr]

Here are pictures

Not jumping: https://gyazo.com/654296a2f8d441e94342d96de7c5fa0a

Just a tad to the right: https://gyazo.com/54f3b8a753f36f5fa262bfb2db76e483

Jumping height: https://gyazo.com/f3e634e5839fcbcf056d51793855df6c

Just something that might help you grasp whats happening:

https://gyazo.com/4245193a4483d19de7e5d7beb8b43ce3

[Empyr]

Running -dxlevel 95 and the problem exists still

[Empyr]

As you can tell in the pictures, the entities allow the text to overlap it, but the props are having a hard time doing the same.. It's not the material on the prop, that I know

[deinemudda32]

its invisible, because its out of your sight.

[Empyr]

So you're telling me that those text screens that are directly in front of my face, that are invisible are out of sight?

I really don't think that's the problem lol, but thanks Deinemudda

[deinemudda32]

They are invisible props which arent that big.
Oh and even they are just some 3d2d texts which can be overwritten by other clientside elements, nothing a developer can do about.

[Empyr]

Idk it might have something to do with these specific props, or the perma props addon. There could be a way to fix it, hopefully a developer can analyze this thoroughly cause It tends to happen a lot. I'm not the only one this problem happens to either, in fact everyone else that's seen this has said it's invisible in game.

[deinemudda32]

Yea and it literally cant be fixed as its the Engine's fault.

[Empyr]

How have you concluded this? I'm standing in 1 spot, and if I simply look over to the left a hair it disappears...

I'm not saying you're wrong It's just hard to believe tbh

[deinemudda32]

I've seen it 100 of times with other entities.
This is definitely not the first case.

We say so, why should it be the cause of the addon which is really lightweight?
You think a coder would add a function for not displaying Texts in Front of Props.

Thats the Engine of Course!

[Empyr]

So case closed this has nothing to do with the addon, its the engine? 🐙