Problems with instability timescale in submesoscale front #4778
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Is it possible that there is a bug in your initial condition expressions? If this is possible, I'd suggest rewriting them directly in terms of |
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Hi all,
I've been trying to run a simulation of a submesoscale front that is in thermal-wind balance and that goes unstable when adding some white noise, but the time to develop the instabilities are much longer than we expected. To test if the numerical setup was the issue, I tried to replicate the results of the work by Boccaletti et al 2007 (Mixed Layer Instabilities and Restratification) using his initial conditions and the numerical setup of my simulations, and I found some similar results:
The pertubation KE evolution looks the same, and even the features developed on his simulations (done with MITgcm) appear quite similar, at least in terms of the time of development of the instabilities.
So, we started to look for some diagnoses of my initial conditions, in terms of some non-dimensional numbers, as Ri, Fr and Bu.
As a statement, my initial conditions looks like this:

For the calculation of the Ri I've been using the Oceanostics.jl package, and for the Fr and Bu I've used the following formulas:
where
$N = \sqrt{\frac{\partial b}{\partial z}}$
The problem is that when I calculate those properties I have some really weird results.
For the Ri, I have:
For the PV:

The code that I use to run the simulations is the follow:
This version of the code does not include white noise (so instabilities do not develop), since I only want to analyze the initial conditions.
From #4485, I know that my initial conditions won't be in perfect thermal-wind balance due to the way that the equations are discretized in Oceananigans.
$T = \frac{1}{0.31} \frac{\sqrt{Ri}}{|f|}$ )$T = 5.1 hrs$ when considering $Ri = 0.25$ , and about $T=10hr$ for $Ri = 0.95$ . This is far from the timescale observed in my outputs, where instabilities only start to appear after about 10–12 days.
Still, I would like to hear your thoughts on why the perturbations take so long to develop. If we estimate the theoretical timescale of baroclinic instability using
I find something close to
In addition, there are the results shown in the figures for Ri and PV, which may be more of a discussion related to Oceanostics.jl (and I can move the discussion there if needed).
Thank you in advance!
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