@@ -41,7 +41,6 @@ topics:
4141- career growth
4242transcript :
4343- header : Episode Opening & Guest Welcome
44- - header : Episode Opening & Guest Welcome
4544- line : This week, we'll talk about recruiting data engineers. We have a special guest
4645 today Nicolas. Nicolas is a technical recruiter who is hiring for a wide variety
4746 of engineering and AI roles. He worked for many years as an in-house recruiter
@@ -54,7 +53,6 @@ transcript:
5453 time : ' 1:12'
5554 who : Nicolas
5655- header : Guest Background and Career Path
57- - header : Guest Background and Career Path
5856- line : Before we go into our main topic of recruiting data engineers, let's start
5957 with your background. Can you tell us about your career journey so far?
6058 sec : 75
@@ -86,7 +84,6 @@ transcript:
8684 time : ' 3:10'
8785 who : Alexey
8886- header : Onfido Role & European Hiring Footprint
89- - header : Onfido Role & European Hiring Footprint
9087- line : We have the UK. Then we are hiring in France, Portugal, Netherlands and Germany.
9188 Maybe more soon, we hope.
9289 sec : 192
@@ -99,7 +96,6 @@ transcript:
9996 time : ' 3:26'
10097 who : Alexey
10198- header : ' Roles Recruited: Data, ML & Research Spectrum'
102- - header : ' Roles Recruited: Data, ML & Research Spectrum'
10399- line : Yeah. For now, we are hiring for mostly I would say, intermediate to senior
104100 levels in terms of profiles. Literally I have a bit of everything. I do hire backend,
105101 frontends, I do DevOps, I do security engineering, I do research. I also work
@@ -111,7 +107,6 @@ transcript:
111107 time : ' 3:40'
112108 who : Nicolas
113109- header : European Tech Market Differences
114- - header : European Tech Market Differences
115110- line : You mentioned that you are looking for candidates in four countries – the
116111 UK, France, Portugal and Germany. I'm wondering how different are the candidates
117112 that you find in these countries and processes? Is it the same or different? Did
@@ -136,7 +131,6 @@ transcript:
136131 time : ' 6:02'
137132 who : Alexey
138133- header : Borderless Recruitment and Competition Dynamics
139- - header : Borderless Recruitment and Competition Dynamics
140134- line : Yeah, but it depends. Because now you have companies hiring across different
141135 countries, you have less and less borders, especially in Europe. In the end, for
142136 example, when you hire within the EU, whether you hire for example, in Germany,
@@ -147,13 +141,12 @@ transcript:
147141 time : ' 6:15'
148142 who : Nicolas
149143- header : ' Episode Focus: Why Data Engineering Matters Now'
150- - header : ' Episode Focus: Why Data Engineering Matters Now'
151- - line : Okay. Interesting. Actually, the reason I reached out to you a couple of weeks
144+ - line : ' Okay. Interesting. Actually, the reason I reached out to you a couple of weeks
152145 ago and invited you to this podcast is because we had a different podcast episode
153146 that was about hiring data professionals – where we talked to Alicia, who was
154147 a guest here – but we mostly talked about data scientists. Then some people reached
155- out to me saying, “ Hey, that was a cool episode, but we want to hear more about
156- data engineers." So here we go.
148+ out to me saying, " Hey, that was a cool episode, but we want to hear more about
149+ data engineers." So here we go.'
157150 sec : 419
158151 time : ' 6:59'
159152 who : Alexey
@@ -199,8 +192,7 @@ transcript:
199192 time : ' 7:48'
200193 who : Nicolas
201194- header : Data Science Misconceptions and Data Quality Dependence
202- - header : Data Science Misconceptions and Data Quality Dependence
203- - line : I think data science was quite commonly romanticized like, “This is the perfect
195+ - line : I think data science was quite commonly romanticized like, "This is the perfect
204196 job where all you do is machine learning.”
205197 sec : 666
206198 time : ' 11:06'
@@ -232,7 +224,6 @@ transcript:
232224 time : ' 12:27'
233225 who : Nicolas
234226- header : Rising Demand for Data Engineering and Modern Tooling
235- - header : Rising Demand for Data Engineering and Modern Tooling
236227- line : Have you observed a spike of interest in data engineering roles recently?
237228 I am judging from the blog posts that I see on the internet. For a year, maybe
238229 a bit longer, I've seen posts on Hacker News, and in general, Reddit and on social
@@ -265,7 +256,6 @@ transcript:
265256 time : ' 13:50'
266257 who : Nicolas
267258- header : ' Recruiter Technical Literacy: Big-Picture Knowledge'
268- - header : ' Recruiter Technical Literacy: Big-Picture Knowledge'
269259- line : I'm wondering, as a recruiter who recruits for data engineering roles, and
270260 in general, for technical roles – how much of this stuff do you need to know?
271261 You seem to know quite a lot already, because we're talking about quite technical
@@ -300,7 +290,6 @@ transcript:
300290 time : ' 16:37'
301291 who : Nicolas
302292- header : ' Hiring Challenges: Titles, Experience Mismatch, Demand'
303- - header : ' Hiring Challenges: Titles, Experience Mismatch, Demand'
304293- line : In your opinion, what are the main difficulties? What are the main challenges
305294 of hiring data engineers?
306295 sec : 1127
@@ -326,7 +315,6 @@ transcript:
326315 time : ' 18:56'
327316 who : Nicolas
328317- header : Evaluating Transferable Experience from Software/BI Roles
329- - header : Evaluating Transferable Experience from Software/BI Roles
330318- line : I imagine that you get a bunch of applications – or you reach out to a bunch
331319 of people – who do not yet have the title of data engineer in their portfolio,
332320 like a data scientist, BI engineer, software engineer. It seems like they're doing
@@ -356,7 +344,6 @@ transcript:
356344 time : ' 21:26'
357345 who : Nicolas
358346- header : ' Expectations by Level: Junior → Senior Responsibilities'
359- - header : ' Expectations by Level: Junior → Senior Responsibilities'
360347- line : Do you think there are a lot of differences between hiring junior data engineers,
361348 middle level data engineers, and senior engineers? [cross-talk]
362349 sec : 1375
@@ -405,7 +392,6 @@ transcript:
405392 time : ' 25:53'
406393 who : Alexey
407394- header : Typical Interview Process and Level-Based Assessments
408- - header : Typical Interview Process and Level-Based Assessments
409395- line : Yeah. So the goal in the recruitment process – you have a framework. The process
410396 is the same but, of course, you do not expect the same whether you're talking
411397 to a junior or a senior engineer. For junior candidates, yes. What I've seen in
@@ -451,7 +437,6 @@ transcript:
451437 time : ' 26:38'
452438 who : Nicolas
453439- header : ' Career Switchers: Internships, Projects, and Focused Skills'
454- - header : ' Career Switchers: Internships, Projects, and Focused Skills'
455440- line : There is a related question. We talked about different levels – talking about
456441 people who are switching to data engineering. What do you look for in these people?
457442 I think you did mention one thing – for people who are just starting their career
@@ -463,8 +448,7 @@ transcript:
463448 time : ' 30:39'
464449 who : Alexey
465450- header : ' Resume Essentials: SQL, Python, Problems & Outcomes'
466- - header : ' Resume Essentials: SQL, Python, Problems & Outcomes'
467- - line : Yeah, exactly. There’s several things. First, I would say that it helps a
451+ - line : Yeah, exactly. There's several things. First, I would say that it helps a
468452 lot if you have done internships, for example. That's a good way to start. Now,
469453 there are a lot of online trainings coming up in resumes, whether it's on their
470454 own, with different technologies – the basics and data engineering use cases.
@@ -504,7 +488,6 @@ transcript:
504488 time : ' 31:16'
505489 who : Nicolas
506490- header : ' Transition Strategy: Team Structure and Role Selection'
507- - header : ' Transition Strategy: Team Structure and Role Selection'
508491- line : Yeah, so speaking of titles, you just mentioned that you don't really care
509492 about them. But I imagine that right now, many data scientists, many software
510493 engineers, BI engineers, data analysts, see this interest in data engineering
@@ -557,7 +540,6 @@ transcript:
557540 time : ' 36:01'
558541 who : Nicolas
559542- header : ' Cloud Fundamentals: Tool-Agnostic Conceptual Knowledge'
560- - header : ' Cloud Fundamentals: Tool-Agnostic Conceptual Knowledge'
561543- line : How important is it for data engineers to know cloud tools like AWS, Google
562544 Cloud Platform, and others? Most of the jobs, at least from what I see in Berlin,
563545 require that to some extent. For the rest of Europe, is that also what you see?
@@ -586,7 +568,6 @@ transcript:
586568 time : ' 40:06'
587569 who : Nicolas
588570- header : ' Infrastructure & DevOps Skills: When They Matter'
589- - header : ' Infrastructure & DevOps Skills: When They Matter'
590571- line : Then the question goes on, "How important is it to know infrastructure tools?"
591572 By this, I think they mean tools like Kubernetes or setting up databases, or whatever
592573 we use for data pipelines, like Kubernetes, Terraform. Is it something you also
@@ -623,7 +604,6 @@ transcript:
623604 time : ' 43:57'
624605 who : Nicolas
625606- header : ' Interview Prep: Research Company and Explain Projects Clearly'
626- - header : ' Interview Prep: Research Company and Explain Projects Clearly'
627607- line : Yeah. Another question, "What would you recommend that job applicants do before
628608 talking to a recruiter or a hiring manager?"
629609 sec : 2675
@@ -671,7 +651,6 @@ transcript:
671651 time : ' 47:43'
672652 who : Alexey
673653- header : Targeted Applications vs. Spray-and-Pray Approach
674- - header : Targeted Applications vs. Spray-and-Pray Approach
675654- line : Exactly. I always ask this question. [laughs] I always ask, "What do you know
676655 about the company? Just tell me everything that you know, and if there's something
677656 that is not true. Then I will complete the gap and give you more details.” Because
@@ -708,7 +687,6 @@ transcript:
708687 time : ' 49:37'
709688 who : Nicolas
710689- header : ' Hiring Without Degrees: Skills, Projects, Continuous Learning'
711- - header : ' Hiring Without Degrees: Skills, Projects, Continuous Learning'
712690- line : What would you say about people without a formal computer science degree?
713691 Would you hire somebody without a formal degree, but someone that has a set of
714692 data engineering projects?
@@ -758,7 +736,6 @@ transcript:
758736 time : ' 53:19'
759737 who : Nicolas
760738- header : ' Standout Project Examples: First Pipelines & Privacy Work'
761- - header : ' Standout Project Examples: First Pipelines & Privacy Work'
762739- line : So, you mentioned projects like 10 times by now. Do you maybe remember some
763740 of the projects that really stood out, where you thought "Wow! Cool! This candidate
764741 is definitely passing my screen into the next step."
@@ -777,7 +754,6 @@ transcript:
777754 time : ' 54:41'
778755 who : Nicolas
779756- header : ' Portfolio & GitHub: Shareable Work and Storytelling'
780- - header : ' Portfolio & GitHub: Shareable Work and Storytelling'
781757- line : So it's not about the portfolio. It's not about your public GitHub profile
782758 with all the projects you’ve worked on – it's more about what projects you can
783759 talk about to the recruiter and explain it concisely in a way that any non-technical
@@ -810,7 +786,6 @@ transcript:
810786 time : ' 56:22'
811787 who : Nicolas
812788- header : ' Industry Fit: Domain Knowledge for Regulated Data'
813- - header : ' Industry Fit: Domain Knowledge for Regulated Data'
814789- line : There is a question from Dan. The question is about switching from one industry
815790 to another. I'm wondering, do you actually look at the industry where the candidate
816791 works in? Or do you care mostly about "Okay, this person is already a data engineer
@@ -856,8 +831,7 @@ transcript:
856831 time : ' 59:59'
857832 who : Nicolas
858833- header : ' Follow-up Resources: Webinars and Further Reading'
859- - header : ' Follow-up Resources: Webinars and Further Reading'
860- - line : ' [laughs] I’m the one who should be doing this. So thanks a lot for doing
834+ - line : ' [laughs] I'' m the one who should be doing this. So thanks a lot for doing
861835 that.'
862836 sec : 3659
863837 time : ' 1:00:59'
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878852 time : ' 1:01:34'
879853 who : Nicolas
880854- header : Episode Close and Final Tips
881- - header : Episode Close and Final Tips
882855- line : Yeah, for everyone who is going to have Easter holidays – enjoy your holidays.
883856 Yeah, it was nice talking to you. Thanks, everyone for tuning in, for asking questions.
884857 That was amazing. Have a great rest of your day.
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1005978 url : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hylxiu4VGTo&t=3698
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