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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 13 January 2025" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Benedikt Hegner, Torre Wenaus, Nicole Skidmore, Paul Laycock, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Eduardo Rodrigues, Mark Neubauer |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies: Stefan Roiser, Pere Mato |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +## News |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +## Advisory Group Meeting |
| 15 | + |
| 16 | +Paul has agreed to be the AG secretary. We have arranged to have the first meeting on Friday 24 January at 16h. |
| 17 | + |
| 18 | +Graeme (as SG chair) will give the presentation from the HSF, which should be prepared by the SG. |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +The draft is currently [here](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tN782fwkT4RWdzvIM84FlKwAsVu5jM5tsB7FSDF7uUc/edit?usp=sharing) - at the time of this meeting it's an early draft. |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +Feedback by Friday - so we can send it to the AG early next week. |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +- Emphasise training more |
| 25 | +- Spell out what GSoC is |
| 26 | +- Pose specific questions to the AG? |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | +## Activity Area Coordinators 2025 |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +Status is quite healthy - we have enough candidates to run all of the working groups this year. There is not so much backup for some groups. Only group that was short of nominations was simulation. |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +Tools and Packaging got very good nominations this year, so it will run. |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +How PyHEP uses HSF conveners needs discussion. Is it just the workshop organisation teams? Graeme and Eduardo will take that discussion offline. |
| 35 | + |
| 36 | +Once conveners for 2025 are settled we should all discuss again with our relevant activities for their plans. |
| 37 | + |
| 38 | +Are people happy with their responsibility assignments? |
| 39 | + |
| 40 | +| Activity | SG Responsible | Met? | |
| 41 | +| ------------------------------------ | --------------- | ------------ | |
| 42 | +| Data Analysis | Eduardo + Mark | | |
| 43 | +| Detector Simulation | Torre + Graeme | | |
| 44 | +| Physics Generators | Liz + Stefan | | |
| 45 | +| JuliaHEP | Pere | | |
| 46 | +| PyHEP | Eduardo | | |
| 47 | +| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Michel + Paul | | |
| 48 | +| Tools and Packaging | Liz + 1? | | |
| 49 | +| Training | Graeme + Nicole | | |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +## European Strategy Update 2025 |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +Things are in motion - all of the groups had discussions / mini-workshops before the break. |
| 54 | + |
| 55 | +- Training and Careers has a [draft document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MRQU0_w8BlXb1ae8w0LTaMaRSyD8a4YPVZCK0edF5VM/edit?usp=sharing) |
| 56 | +- Simulation also have a draft |
| 57 | + |
| 58 | +We need to check status here and push, which Michel and Graeme will do. |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +## HSF/WLCG Workshop |
| 61 | + |
| 62 | +See slides attached to the agenda from Michel for practical details. |
| 63 | + |
| 64 | +We need to urgently setup an organising team for this event. Suggest ~3 people. |
| 65 | + |
| 66 | +- Nicole |
| 67 | +- Eduardo |
| 68 | +- Paul |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +Ideas for focus topics? |
| 71 | + |
| 72 | +- Software Environmental Sustainability |
| 73 | +- ... |
| 74 | + |
| 75 | +## Seminar Series and C&AF |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +Future dates: |
| 78 | + |
| 79 | +- 29 January - There was a future detector plan, unclear if it will be finalised. |
| 80 | +- 26 February - 4D Tracking |
| 81 | + |
| 82 | +[Indico](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/); Coordinators: ~~Benedikt~~, Michel, ~~Andrea~~, Nicole |
| 83 | + |
| 84 | +We need an additional organiser here, or we merge with C&AF organisation. |
| 85 | + |
| 86 | +There has been a proposal to try to merge the organisation of the SS and the CAF to optimise: |
| 87 | + |
| 88 | +- Keep the C&AF Indico category, but migrate it into the HSF space (at the moment it’s in the defunct proto-SIDS space) |
| 89 | +- Move the HSF Seminars also into this category, so that there’s one place to find these events |
| 90 | + - Each event is already badged with Compute & Accelerator Forum or HSF Seminar, so they are distinct |
| 91 | +- Merge the organising teams, so we can optimise the organisation |
| 92 | + |
| 93 | +Generally we are keen on the merge of these activities and think this is a long term benefit. |
| 94 | + |
| 95 | +## IRIS-HEP Steering Board |
| 96 | + |
| 97 | +There is an IRIS-HEP SB on 14 January. Graeme has been the HSF rep since the beginning and would like to now step down. |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +*Not a very onerous task - 3-4 meetings a year, but usually reactive. Some presentations when asked.* |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +## HSF Affiliated Projects |
| 102 | + |
| 103 | +First review, prmon, is done. |
| 104 | + |
| 105 | +*We are really struggling to find people to do these reviews.* NNPDF asked more than two months ago to be included, but so far we have no review. |
| 106 | + |
| 107 | +How can we motivate greater engagement? Is this too much for us to handle? Should we have some specific responsible people? |
| 108 | + |
| 109 | +- Continue to push and do some more reviews in the SB. |
| 110 | + |
| 111 | +Next month volunteers: Graeme, ... |
| 112 | + |
| 113 | +## AOB |
| 114 | + |
| 115 | +### Benedikt |
| 116 | + |
| 117 | +Benedikt is leaving the field for industry, The meeting very warmly thanked Benedikt for all his contributions to the HSF over many years. He will be missed. |
| 118 | + |
| 119 | +### Coordination Meetings |
| 120 | + |
| 121 | +As ever... [Chairing sign up document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit). Slots are in for 2025. |
| 122 | + |
| 123 | +**Graeme cannot come to the coordination meeting this week, so a chair for this week is urgently needed.** |
| 124 | + |
| 125 | +Eduardo will do this week 🙏. Please take a look at the schedule and sign up for 1 or 2 slots in the future. |
| 126 | + |
| 127 | +### Domain |
| 128 | + |
| 129 | +Torre made enquiries with BNL who seem to be willing to take over ownership of the domain. Any news? |
| 130 | + |
| 131 | +- Procedure is established, but this will take a bit of time (there is a prior knowledge on this from <https://www.usatlas.org>). |
| 132 | +- Unfortunately the request was refused inside the IT department, despite strong support from the Physics department. |
| 133 | + - Not given up yet. |
| 134 | + |
| 135 | +We might also enquire with IJCLab via Michel. |
| 136 | + |
| 137 | +### Next Meeting |
| 138 | + |
| 139 | +As needed post-AG? Probably at the beginning of February. |
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