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title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 13 January 2025"
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## Attending
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Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Benedikt Hegner, Torre Wenaus, Nicole Skidmore, Paul Laycock, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Eduardo Rodrigues, Mark Neubauer
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Apologies: Stefan Roiser, Pere Mato
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## News
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## Advisory Group Meeting
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Paul has agreed to be the AG secretary. We have arranged to have the first meeting on Friday 24 January at 16h.
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Graeme (as SG chair) will give the presentation from the HSF, which should be prepared by the SG.
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The draft is currently [here](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tN782fwkT4RWdzvIM84FlKwAsVu5jM5tsB7FSDF7uUc/edit?usp=sharing) - at the time of this meeting it's an early draft.
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Feedback by Friday - so we can send it to the AG early next week.
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- Emphasise training more
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- Spell out what GSoC is
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- Pose specific questions to the AG?
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## Activity Area Coordinators 2025
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Status is quite healthy - we have enough candidates to run all of the working groups this year. There is not so much backup for some groups. Only group that was short of nominations was simulation.
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Tools and Packaging got very good nominations this year, so it will run.
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How PyHEP uses HSF conveners needs discussion. Is it just the workshop organisation teams? Graeme and Eduardo will take that discussion offline.
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Once conveners for 2025 are settled we should all discuss again with our relevant activities for their plans.
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Are people happy with their responsibility assignments?
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| Activity | SG Responsible | Met? |
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| ------------------------------------ | --------------- | ------------ |
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| Data Analysis | Eduardo + Mark | |
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| Detector Simulation | Torre + Graeme | |
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| Physics Generators | Liz + Stefan | |
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| JuliaHEP | Pere | |
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| PyHEP | Eduardo | |
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| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Michel + Paul | |
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| Tools and Packaging | Liz + 1? | |
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| Training | Graeme + Nicole | |
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## European Strategy Update 2025
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Things are in motion - all of the groups had discussions / mini-workshops before the break.
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- Training and Careers has a [draft document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MRQU0_w8BlXb1ae8w0LTaMaRSyD8a4YPVZCK0edF5VM/edit?usp=sharing)
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- Simulation also have a draft
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We need to check status here and push, which Michel and Graeme will do.
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## HSF/WLCG Workshop
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See slides attached to the agenda from Michel for practical details.
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We need to urgently setup an organising team for this event. Suggest ~3 people.
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- Nicole
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- Eduardo
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- Paul
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Ideas for focus topics?
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- Software Environmental Sustainability
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- ...
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## Seminar Series and C&AF
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Future dates:
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- 29 January - There was a future detector plan, unclear if it will be finalised.
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- 26 February - 4D Tracking
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[Indico](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/); Coordinators: ~~Benedikt~~, Michel, ~~Andrea~~, Nicole
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We need an additional organiser here, or we merge with C&AF organisation.
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There has been a proposal to try to merge the organisation of the SS and the CAF to optimise:
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- Keep the C&AF Indico category, but migrate it into the HSF space (at the moment it’s in the defunct proto-SIDS space)
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- Move the HSF Seminars also into this category, so that there’s one place to find these events
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- Each event is already badged with Compute & Accelerator Forum or HSF Seminar, so they are distinct
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- Merge the organising teams, so we can optimise the organisation
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Generally we are keen on the merge of these activities and think this is a long term benefit.
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## IRIS-HEP Steering Board
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There is an IRIS-HEP SB on 14 January. Graeme has been the HSF rep since the beginning and would like to now step down.
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*Not a very onerous task - 3-4 meetings a year, but usually reactive. Some presentations when asked.*
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## HSF Affiliated Projects
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First review, prmon, is done.
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*We are really struggling to find people to do these reviews.* NNPDF asked more than two months ago to be included, but so far we have no review.
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How can we motivate greater engagement? Is this too much for us to handle? Should we have some specific responsible people?
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- Continue to push and do some more reviews in the SB.
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Next month volunteers: Graeme, ...
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## AOB
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### Benedikt
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Benedikt is leaving the field for industry, The meeting very warmly thanked Benedikt for all his contributions to the HSF over many years. He will be missed.
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### Coordination Meetings
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As ever... [Chairing sign up document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit). Slots are in for 2025.
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**Graeme cannot come to the coordination meeting this week, so a chair for this week is urgently needed.**
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Eduardo will do this week 🙏. Please take a look at the schedule and sign up for 1 or 2 slots in the future.
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### Domain
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Torre made enquiries with BNL who seem to be willing to take over ownership of the domain. Any news?
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- Procedure is established, but this will take a bit of time (there is a prior knowledge on this from <https://www.usatlas.org>).
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- Unfortunately the request was refused inside the IT department, despite strong support from the Physics department.
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- Not given up yet.
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We might also enquire with IJCLab via Michel.
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### Next Meeting
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As needed post-AG? Probably at the beginning of February.

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