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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #286, 10 April 2025" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Ruslan Mashinistov, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Claire Antel, Ianna Osborne, Michel Villanueva, Inês Ochoa, Maarten van Veghel, Juan Miguel Carceller, Sapta Bhattacharya |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies/Contributing: Eduardo Rodrigues, Graeme A. Stewart, Paul Laycock, Caterina Doglioni, Michel Jouvin, Christian Wessel, Alexander Moreno Briceño |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | + |
| 13 | +## News, general matters, announcements |
| 14 | + |
| 15 | +### European Strategy Update (EPPSU) final stages |
| 16 | + |
| 17 | +Michel and Graeme unavailable, but here is the status: |
| 18 | + |
| 19 | +The paper, *The Critical Importance of Software for HEP*, was finalised on time 👏. |
| 20 | + |
| 21 | +- Submitted to the EPPSU process: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1439855/contributions/6461466/> |
| 22 | +- Uploaded to Zenodo: <https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15097159> |
| 23 | +- Published on arXiv: <https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2504.01050> (if you are an editor, ask Michel or Graeme for the arXiv claim code) |
| 24 | + |
| 25 | +The paper was endorsed by ALICE, ATLAS, Belle II, CMS, DUNE, ePIC, LHCb, MCnet and WLCG! |
| 26 | + |
| 27 | +Q. Who is going to the open symposium in Venice? It would make a good topic for an HSF Seminar to report on this. |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +### HSF/WLCG Workshop |
| 30 | + |
| 31 | +The agenda is available here: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/timetable/> |
| 32 | +### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +Planned seminars: |
| 35 | + |
| 36 | +- Planning seminar on HS3 (HEP Statistics Serialization Standard) with multiple speakers. Still trying to find suitable date with speakers in April/June - but getting a bit late for April. |
| 37 | +- 28th May (as anounced last time): Seminar on AdePT and Celeritas update on detector simulation with GPUs. |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +June has a clash with the EPPSU symposium - TBD if we have a seminar. |
| 40 | + |
| 41 | +HSF seminar conveners are reachable at <mailto:[email protected]> |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +* Please send your suggestions for this Spring seminars |
| 44 | + |
| 45 | +### Steering Group |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +Next SG meeting will take place on April 14th. |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +The review of the [nnpdf](https://github.com/NNPDF/nnpdf) package in underway and the GDoc will soon be make available for feedback via the HSF Forum. |
| 52 | +- Reviewers are Steven Mrenna and Eduardo Rodrigues. |
| 53 | + |
| 54 | +### JENA Symposium |
| 55 | + |
| 56 | +The Joint ECFA-NuPPEC-APPEC Seminar is ongoing in Harwell this week: <https://indico.global/event/5574>. |
| 57 | + |
| 58 | +There is a long session on software and computing *today* - full report next meeting. |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +## Activities Updates |
| 61 | + |
| 62 | +Planning chats between activity conveners and SG liaisons are underway. |
| 63 | + |
| 64 | +| Group | SG Liaison | Status |
| 65 | +| ------------------------------------ | ----------------- | ----------| |
| 66 | +| Data Analysis | Mark and Eduardo | Done | |
| 67 | +| Detector Simulation | Torre | Done | |
| 68 | +| Physics Generators | Stefan | Done | |
| 69 | +| JuliaHEP | Pere | Scheduled | |
| 70 | +| PyHEP | Eduardo | Done |
| 71 | +| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Claire and Paul | Done | |
| 72 | +| Tools and Packaging | Liz | Done | |
| 73 | +| Training | Nicole and Graeme | Done | |
| 74 | + |
| 75 | +The AA conveners should also feel free to reach out to their liaison to speed the planning! |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +Please remember to update your activity page on the HSF website with the names of the current conveners. |
| 78 | + |
| 79 | +### General Standing Reminders |
| 80 | + |
| 81 | +#### Website banners |
| 82 | + |
| 83 | +We have the ability to put event banners on the HSF website. All it requires is a markdown file with the event data. See, e.g., files [here](https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/tree/main/announcements/_posts/2023). |
| 84 | + |
| 85 | +#### Meetings |
| 86 | + |
| 87 | +Please try and book meetings in Indico at least 2 weeks in advance! |
| 88 | + |
| 89 | +That way they go into the calendar early and they will be included in the weekly email announcement that goes to HSF Forum. |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | +#### Videos |
| 92 | + |
| 93 | +When meetings are recorded (recommended), please try to put them onto: |
| 94 | + |
| 95 | +- [HSF YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/c/HEPSoftwareFoundation) (ask for permission to do this) |
| 96 | +- <videos.cern.ch> (recommended over posting directly) |
| 97 | + |
| 98 | +Then post links to these locations. See [C&AF](https://indico.cern.ch/category/12741/) for examples. |
| 99 | + |
| 100 | +### Data Analysis |
| 101 | +### Reconstruction and Trigger |
| 102 | +### Software Training |
| 103 | + |
| 104 | +Future events: |
| 105 | + |
| 106 | +- [HSF/WLCG Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/) - May 5-9. We will have a dedicated training session and we are working on the agenda. |
| 107 | +- [HSF/IRIS-HEP Software Basics Training (Hybrid)](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1516608/) - Jun 18-20. Hybrid at CERN |
| 108 | +- [Deep Learning Train-the-Trainer Workshop](https://indico.desy.de/event/47263/) - Sept 15-19. Organized by the HSF and ErUM-Data-Hub. In-person in Potsdam. Registration is open! Deadline: August 4 |
| 109 | + |
| 110 | +### Software Tools and Packaging |
| 111 | + |
| 112 | +Ruslan Mashinistov: |
| 113 | + |
| 114 | +- I reached out to people who participated in the GitLab DUO pilot at CERN, as mentioned in the AI-powered development tools at CERN slides, but unfortunately received no responses. |
| 115 | +- Shuwei Ye, an AI tools enthusiast from the BNL NPPS (physics software) group, has agreed to share his experience. He has insights on Aider, DeepSeek-R1, Copilot, Codeium, and more. |
| 116 | +- I need advice on how to attract more presenters and participants for the AI-assisted tools HSF seminar |
| 117 | + |
| 118 | + |
| 119 | +### Detector Simulation |
| 120 | + |
| 121 | + |
| 122 | +### Physics Generators |
| 123 | +Check with Stefan to check with the summary of the meeting which included suggested topics and maybe even a seminar. |
| 124 | + |
| 125 | +### Reconstruction and Software Triggers |
| 126 | +Planning a new meeting with liaisons to discuss contributions. |
| 127 | + |
| 128 | +### PyHEP |
| 129 | +[PyHEP.dev 2025 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1515852/) will be held at University of Washington from July 14 to 17. |
| 130 | + |
| 131 | +### JuliaHEP |
| 132 | + |
| 133 | +[JuliaHEP 2025 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1488852/) will be held at Princeton from July 28 to 31. |
| 134 | +- Early registration deadline for local participation: April 25 |
| 135 | + - After April 25 an additional fee will apply |
| 136 | +- Final registration deadline: July 7 |
| 137 | + |
| 138 | +### GSoC program 2025 |
| 139 | + |
| 140 | + |
| 141 | +## AOB |
| 142 | + |
| 143 | +### Next Meeting |
| 144 | + |
| 145 | +Next meeting will be [24 April](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477075/). |
| 146 | + |
| 147 | +### Chair This Meeting 👇 |
| 148 | + |
| 149 | +Please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing a future coordination meeting. (There is even a [HOWTO guide](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/running-meetings.html)). |
| 150 | + |
| 151 | + |
| 152 | +[def]: ttps://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/timetable |
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