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title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #286, 10 April 2025"
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## Attending
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Present/Contributing: Ruslan Mashinistov, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Claire Antel, Ianna Osborne, Michel Villanueva, Inês Ochoa, Maarten van Veghel, Juan Miguel Carceller, Sapta Bhattacharya
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Apologies/Contributing: Eduardo Rodrigues, Graeme A. Stewart, Paul Laycock, Caterina Doglioni, Michel Jouvin, Christian Wessel, Alexander Moreno Briceño
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## News, general matters, announcements
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### European Strategy Update (EPPSU) final stages
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Michel and Graeme unavailable, but here is the status:
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The paper, *The Critical Importance of Software for HEP*, was finalised on time 👏.
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- Submitted to the EPPSU process: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1439855/contributions/6461466/>
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- Uploaded to Zenodo: <https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.15097159>
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- Published on arXiv: <https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2504.01050> (if you are an editor, ask Michel or Graeme for the arXiv claim code)
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The paper was endorsed by ALICE, ATLAS, Belle II, CMS, DUNE, ePIC, LHCb, MCnet and WLCG!
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Q. Who is going to the open symposium in Venice? It would make a good topic for an HSF Seminar to report on this.
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### HSF/WLCG Workshop
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The agenda is available here: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/timetable/>
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### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum
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Planned seminars:
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- Planning seminar on HS3 (HEP Statistics Serialization Standard) with multiple speakers. Still trying to find suitable date with speakers in April/June - but getting a bit late for April.
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- 28th May (as anounced last time): Seminar on AdePT and Celeritas update on detector simulation with GPUs.
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June has a clash with the EPPSU symposium - TBD if we have a seminar.
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HSF seminar conveners are reachable at <mailto:[email protected]>
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* Please send your suggestions for this Spring seminars
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### Steering Group
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Next SG meeting will take place on April 14th.
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### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software
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The review of the [nnpdf](https://github.com/NNPDF/nnpdf) package in underway and the GDoc will soon be make available for feedback via the HSF Forum.
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- Reviewers are Steven Mrenna and Eduardo Rodrigues.
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### JENA Symposium
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The Joint ECFA-NuPPEC-APPEC Seminar is ongoing in Harwell this week: <https://indico.global/event/5574>.
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There is a long session on software and computing *today* - full report next meeting.
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## Activities Updates
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Planning chats between activity conveners and SG liaisons are underway.
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| Group | SG Liaison | Status
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| ------------------------------------ | ----------------- | ----------|
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| Data Analysis | Mark and Eduardo | Done |
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| Detector Simulation | Torre | Done |
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| Physics Generators | Stefan | Done |
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| JuliaHEP | Pere | Scheduled |
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| PyHEP | Eduardo | Done
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| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Claire and Paul | Done |
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| Tools and Packaging | Liz | Done |
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| Training | Nicole and Graeme | Done |
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The AA conveners should also feel free to reach out to their liaison to speed the planning!
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Please remember to update your activity page on the HSF website with the names of the current conveners.
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### General Standing Reminders
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#### Website banners
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We have the ability to put event banners on the HSF website. All it requires is a markdown file with the event data. See, e.g., files [here](https://github.com/HSF/hsf.github.io/tree/main/announcements/_posts/2023).
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#### Meetings
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Please try and book meetings in Indico at least 2 weeks in advance!
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That way they go into the calendar early and they will be included in the weekly email announcement that goes to HSF Forum.
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#### Videos
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When meetings are recorded (recommended), please try to put them onto:
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- [HSF YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/c/HEPSoftwareFoundation) (ask for permission to do this)
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- <videos.cern.ch> (recommended over posting directly)
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Then post links to these locations. See [C&AF](https://indico.cern.ch/category/12741/) for examples.
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### Data Analysis
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### Reconstruction and Trigger
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### Software Training
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Future events:
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- [HSF/WLCG Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/) - May 5-9. We will have a dedicated training session and we are working on the agenda.
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- [HSF/IRIS-HEP Software Basics Training (Hybrid)](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1516608/) - Jun 18-20. Hybrid at CERN
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- [Deep Learning Train-the-Trainer Workshop](https://indico.desy.de/event/47263/) - Sept 15-19. Organized by the HSF and ErUM-Data-Hub. In-person in Potsdam. Registration is open! Deadline: August 4
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### Software Tools and Packaging
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Ruslan Mashinistov:
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- I reached out to people who participated in the GitLab DUO pilot at CERN, as mentioned in the AI-powered development tools at CERN slides, but unfortunately received no responses.
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- Shuwei Ye, an AI tools enthusiast from the BNL NPPS (physics software) group, has agreed to share his experience. He has insights on Aider, DeepSeek-R1, Copilot, Codeium, and more.
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- I need advice on how to attract more presenters and participants for the AI-assisted tools HSF seminar
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### Detector Simulation
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### Physics Generators
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Check with Stefan to check with the summary of the meeting which included suggested topics and maybe even a seminar.
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### Reconstruction and Software Triggers
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Planning a new meeting with liaisons to discuss contributions.
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### PyHEP
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[PyHEP.dev 2025 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1515852/) will be held at University of Washington from July 14 to 17.
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### JuliaHEP
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[JuliaHEP 2025 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1488852/) will be held at Princeton from July 28 to 31.
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- Early registration deadline for local participation: April 25
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- After April 25 an additional fee will apply
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- Final registration deadline: July 7
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### GSoC program 2025
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## AOB
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### Next Meeting
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Next meeting will be [24 April](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1477075/).
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### Chair This Meeting 👇
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Please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing a future coordination meeting. (There is even a [HOWTO guide](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/running-meetings.html)).
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[def]: ttps://indico.cern.ch/event/1484669/timetable

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