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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 14 October 2024" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Stefan Roiser, Torre Wenaus, Eduardo Rodrigues, Mark Neubauer |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies: Andrea Valassi, Paul Laycock |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +## Discussions with Activity Areas |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +Any discussions to report on? |
| 15 | + |
| 16 | +| Activity | SG Responsible | Met? | |
| 17 | +| ------------------------------------ | --------------- | ------------ | |
| 18 | +| Data Analysis | Eduardo + Mark | Not yet | |
| 19 | +| Detector Simulation | Torre + Graeme | This week | |
| 20 | +| Physics Generators | Liz + Stefan | Y | |
| 21 | +| JuliaHEP | Pere | Y (implicit) | |
| 22 | +| PyHEP | Eduardo | Y (implicit) | |
| 23 | +| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Michel + Paul | | |
| 24 | +| Tools and Packaging | Liz + 1? | Y | |
| 25 | +| Training | Graeme + Nicole | Y | |
| 26 | + |
| 27 | +Liz met with the Tools and Packaging conveners (as reported in last week's Coodination Meeting). |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +We should discuss regular slots that could be used for activity area meetings - topic for next coordination meeting. |
| 30 | + |
| 31 | +Generators - Sapta had an idea for a follow-up to last year's workshop, looking at event generation on GPUs. |
| 32 | + |
| 33 | +## European Strategy Update 2025 |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +We devoted last week's coordination meeting to this topic (see [slides](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1355758/contributions/5708314/attachments/2945044/5175250/HSF%20Inputs%20from%20European%20Strategy%20Update.pdf)). |
| 36 | + |
| 37 | +Intention is to cover as a core: Event generators, simulation, reconstruction, analysis, plus training and careers. |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +Those working groups that were there responded positively. |
| 40 | + |
| 41 | +Our proposed timeline is: |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +- Now -> beginning of January: activity meetings to get the community feedback on the topic you mentioned |
| 44 | + - A one afternoon mini-workshop looks like it would be a good model |
| 45 | + - We can certainly allow people to submit short white papers as well |
| 46 | +- January : writing of chapter drafts |
| 47 | +- Feb 1-15: assembling of chapters, first paper draft |
| 48 | +- Feb 15 - March 1 : draft circulation and finalization |
| 49 | +- March: community endorsement (something like what we did for the CWP, asking for people to sign it) |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +Length is not set in stone, but we think about 3-5 pages per activity will be about right. 20-25 pages in total. |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +Michel and Graeme have followed up with the key activity areas to help generate momentum - there is not much time. |
| 54 | + |
| 55 | +And additional help would be very welcome (Andrea is happy to contribute to the generator chapter). |
| 56 | + |
| 57 | +## Seminar Series |
| 58 | + |
| 59 | +[Indico](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/); Coordinators: Benedikt, Michel, ~~Andrea~~ |
| 60 | + |
| 61 | +We need an additional helper here! |
| 62 | + |
| 63 | +Got an initial boost from JuliaHEP: |
| 64 | + |
| 65 | +- 1 October, Julia in high-energy physics: a paradigm shift or just another tool? |
| 66 | +- 3 October, Julia as a Statically-Compiled Language |
| 67 | + |
| 68 | +Future dates: |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +- 30 October (probably this one slips..) |
| 71 | + - Summaries/highlights of community meetings (JuliaHEP, Rucio, CHEP)? |
| 72 | + - Torre will suggest this to the seminar organisers |
| 73 | +- 27 November, Generators? |
| 74 | +- 29 January |
| 75 | +- 26 February |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +Nothing *confirmed* yet? |
| 78 | + |
| 79 | +Note the [4D Tracking for Future Colliders Workshop](https://indico.slac.stanford.edu/event/8992) on November 7, 2024. Could provide some useful input on topics and/or speakers for a future HSF Seminar. |
| 80 | + |
| 81 | +## HSF Affiliated Projects |
| 82 | + |
| 83 | +The description of [HSF Affiliated Projects and Software](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/projects/affiliated.html) is now on the website. It motivates the activity and sets out some of the parameters for things like reviews, defining requirements and providing reference implementations. |
| 84 | + |
| 85 | +The actual [guidelines for projects](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/projects/guidelines.html) are on a separate page. |
| 86 | + |
| 87 | +- Projects (theirs or others) who would like to trial the process of becoming an affiliate? |
| 88 | + - Graeme: [prmon](https://github.com/HSF/prmon); [JetReconstruction.jl](https://github.com/JuliaHEP/JetReconstruction.jl) |
| 89 | + |
| 90 | +Need a volunteer from the SG to check the criteria and report to the SG for approval. |
| 91 | + |
| 92 | +- Eduardo will check prmon. |
| 93 | +- Ask Pere about JetReconstruction.jl. |
| 94 | + |
| 95 | +## Advisory Group |
| 96 | + |
| 97 | +The [Advisory Group mandate](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/advisory-group.html) is published. Invitations have been sent to the large HEP experiments (ALICE, ATLAS, Belle II, DUNE, CMS, LHCb), WLCG and the theory community (MCnet). |
| 98 | + |
| 99 | +So far positive responses from MCnet, LHCb and ALICE. |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +Intention would be to have a first AG meeting early next year. |
| 102 | + |
| 103 | +## AOB |
| 104 | + |
| 105 | +### Coordination Meetings |
| 106 | + |
| 107 | +As ever... [chairing sign up document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit). We need one more volunteer for 2024, for 7 November. |
| 108 | + |
| 109 | +And we have to start planning for next year! |
| 110 | + |
| 111 | +### Domain |
| 112 | + |
| 113 | +Torre made enquiries with BNL who seem to be willing to take over ownership of the domain. Any news? |
| 114 | + |
| 115 | +- Procedure is established, but this will take a bit of time (there is a prior knowledge on this from <https://www.usatlas.org>). |
| 116 | + |
| 117 | +### Next Meeting |
| 118 | + |
| 119 | +Next meeting in 4 weeks time? 11 November. (US, French public holiday, so not ideal - we may poll.) |
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