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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 19 November 2024" |
| 3 | +layout: plain_toc |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | + |
| 6 | +## Attending |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Paul Laycock, Benedikt Hegner, Eduardo Rodrigues |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +Apologies: Stefan Roiser, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Torre Wenaus |
| 11 | + |
| 12 | +## News |
| 13 | + |
| 14 | +### Talks |
| 15 | + |
| 16 | +Graeme gave an HSF talk at DESY last week: [slides on Zenodo](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.14186952). |
| 17 | + |
| 18 | +### Experiment Discussions |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +Good discussion with Mike Kirby from DUNE about increasing their HSF involvement. |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +### LHCC |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +- Eduardo's presentation on behalf of the HSF and various projects was well received. |
| 25 | +- It was appreciated that the proposals made earlier in the year are now put into practice. |
| 26 | +- Interest in seeing more projects/libraries as affiliated. |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | +## Activity Areas |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +| Activity | SG Responsible | Met? | |
| 31 | +| ------------------------------------ | --------------- | ------------ | |
| 32 | +| Data Analysis | Eduardo + Mark | Y (Graeme+Michel) | |
| 33 | +| Detector Simulation | Torre + Graeme | Y | |
| 34 | +| Physics Generators | Liz + Stefan | Y | |
| 35 | +| JuliaHEP | Pere | Y (implicit) | |
| 36 | +| PyHEP | Eduardo | Y (implicit) | |
| 37 | +| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Michel + Paul | Y (Graeme+Michel) | |
| 38 | +| Tools and Packaging | Liz + 1? | Y | |
| 39 | +| Training | Graeme + Nicole | Y | |
| 40 | + |
| 41 | +Graeme and Michel had the chance to meet with Data Analysis and Reconstruction and Software Triggers conveners at CHEP. We discussed general activity strategy, HSF Seminars and EPPSU. |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +### Coordinators 2025 |
| 44 | + |
| 45 | +We are asking coordinators if they want to stay on for next year (needs pushed a bit!). |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +Would anyone like to volunteer for the search committee? Currently this is Graeme, Liz, Michel, Benedikt and Claire, but we are open to rotation. Paul will join the team. |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +## European Strategy Update 2025 |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +Things are in motion! |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +Activity area mini-workshops are being organised: |
| 54 | + |
| 55 | +- **Detector Simulation** Community input on the European Strategy for Particle Physics Update, Friday 22 November, 15h-18h CET, <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1475445/> (at CERN meeting in 2/R-030) |
| 56 | +- **Reconstruction and Software Triggers** Mini workshop: Input for European Strategy for Particle Physics 2025, Wednesday 27 November, 14-16h CET, <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1475492/> |
| 57 | + |
| 58 | +Data Analysis and Physics Generators should announce their dates soon. |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +In discussions with the experiments about them endorsing the final document - ALICE and LHCb are favourable. |
| 61 | + |
| 62 | +## Seminar Series |
| 63 | + |
| 64 | +Future dates: |
| 65 | + |
| 66 | +- 27 November - Event Generation on GPUs |
| 67 | +- 29 January - ? |
| 68 | +- 26 February - 4D Tracking |
| 69 | + |
| 70 | +[Indico](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/); Coordinators: Benedikt, Michel. |
| 71 | + |
| 72 | +We need an additional organiser here. |
| 73 | + |
| 74 | +## HSF Affiliated Projects |
| 75 | + |
| 76 | +First review, prmon, is done. |
| 77 | + |
| 78 | +*We are struggling to find people to do these reviews.* NNPDF asked more than a month ago to be included, but so far we have no reviewer. |
| 79 | + |
| 80 | +- Eduardo happy to do it *with someone else*. Ask our generator conveners? |
| 81 | + |
| 82 | +Also start to approach our previous projects. |
| 83 | + |
| 84 | +## Advisory Group |
| 85 | + |
| 86 | +The [Advisory Group mandate](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/advisory-group.html) was published. Large HEP experiments (ALICE, ATLAS, Belle II, DUNE, CMS, LHCb), WLCG and the theory community (MCnet) were contacted and all responded positively. |
| 87 | + |
| 88 | +Intention would be to have a first AG meeting early next year. |
| 89 | + |
| 90 | +## AOB |
| 91 | + |
| 92 | +### Coordination Meetings |
| 93 | + |
| 94 | +As ever... [Chairing sign up document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit). Slots are in for 2025. |
| 95 | + |
| 96 | +### Domain |
| 97 | + |
| 98 | +Torre made enquiries with BNL who seem to be willing to take over ownership of the domain. Any news? |
| 99 | + |
| 100 | +- Procedure is established, but this will take a bit of time (there is a prior knowledge on this from <https://www.usatlas.org>). |
| 101 | + |
| 102 | +### Next Meeting |
| 103 | + |
| 104 | +We really did not find a good regular slot for this meeting. Should we return to the Monday 15h slot? Use alternate Thursday 15h slots? Or pick a non-HSF Seminar Wednesday 16h30 slot? Or just newdle on demand, given these are occasional meetings...? |
| 105 | + |
| 106 | +- Looks like Mondays 15h might be easier for LHCb people now |
| 107 | + |
| 108 | +If we need another meeting this year, w/b 9 December would be an option - but we can continue to track things via the usual Coordination meetings. |
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