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### CERN LPCC Monte Carlo Working Group meeting
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HSF got invited to contribute to the session “Sustainability of the MC toolchain” with a 15 min presentation. Need to find speaker urgently since the session is precisely a week from today.
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HSF got invited to contribute to the session “Sustainability of the MC toolchain” with a 15 min presentation. Need to find speaker urgently since the session is precisely a week from today (2 October).
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Eduardo has asked Sapta as it would be good to get someone from the HSF event generator group. Andrea Valassi could be a backup.
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- Day update post meeting: Sapta agreed to prepare and deliver the talk. Thank you Sapta!
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- Update post meeting: Sapta agreed to prepare and deliver the talk. Thank you Sapta!
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### EPPSU Paper
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Status of submission to EPJ C: referee suggested addition of a glossary. TBD asap whether we add it or not.
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ACTION: Graeme and Michel to reply back to the referee.
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ACTION: Michel to reply back to the referee consulting with Graeme. The journal have provided proofs already and asked for some technical corrections.
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### Idea to create a bibtex repository
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Indeed, one often needs to dig out the same references over and over again, be it for HSF workshop proceedings or some software related document/paper.
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One often needs to dig out the same references over and over again, be it for HSF workshop proceedings or some software related document/paper.
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Eduardo suggests to create a "BiblioHEP" repository and populate with some of the citations content he already has (e.g., the PyHEP 2024.dev 2024 report). Do people think this is a good idea?
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We thought it would be good to target the new intake of students in the Autumn.
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- ACTION : we need to draft a text that we can suggest things (still TODO, to be chased. Graeme will do a first draft with Eduardo to check.
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- ACTION : we need to draft a text that we can suggest things (still TODO, to be chased). Graeme will do a first draft with Eduardo to check.
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## HSF Budget
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The HSF has no funding source but does have a little pot of money from what it receives from the GSoC programme that's been running for several years. This budget has been used to sponsor for example coffee/tea breaks at training events.
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The HSF has no funding source but does have a little pot of money from which it receives from the GSoC programme that's been running for several years. This budget has been used to sponsor for example coffee/tea breaks at training events.
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Eduardo has discussed the budget and practicalities with EP-SFT management. We will continue to receive 50% of GSoC stipends and a spreadsheet has been shared with us (via the SG chair) to manage the budget.
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Recap: should we have a particular focus on *Software Sustainability*? It is a popular and very relevant topic, with lots of cross-experiment potential. Would it be useful if the HSF were to solicit a mandate from WLCG for this task? It would need to then be expressed as a concrete time-bound task.
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Updates from CD on green/sustainable software:
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Updates from CD on green/sustainable software:
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- Summer student completed a list of "green software" tools on Zenodo <https://zenodo.org/records/17176255>.
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- EuCAIF Green&Sustainable WG (kick-off: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1547268/>) would like to propose some joint seminar topics on FAIR and green AI - will get in touch with seminar organisers.
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Action:
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Action:
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- Eduardo and Graeme will have a coffee/tea with Simone/WLCG.
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- Done, mandate is clear and forum will start in September (or July 30th? agreed with WLCG earlier on, but probably too early).
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- Caterina will have a PR at some point with resources
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- Caterina will have a PR at some point with resources
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- Not yet done, see below (where? do we already want the table linked to the affiliated project page).
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- Caterina (or Eduardo) can report on WLCG sustainability kick-off and next steps.
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- Caterina (or Eduardo) can report on WLCG sustainability kick-off and next steps.
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## AOB
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### Connections with other "checklists for software quality"
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TLDR: Stefan, CD and Michael Sparks did an exercise of roughly mapping the HSF affiliated project criteria to the ICFA lifecycle panel recommendations and the EVERSE RSQKit tasks. They should all link to each other in some way (how do we do this on our website?).
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Full version and insight: <https://docs.google.com/document/d/19PDPASnmldvpH1Wa03ucVrBqH-XkWy6-4lK8NqiHlU0/edit?tab=t.xxhm5tdm9sca#heading=h.6x0zzcpxod1>.
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Full version and insight in this [document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/19PDPASnmldvpH1Wa03ucVrBqH-XkWy6-4lK8NqiHlU0/edit?tab=t.xxhm5tdm9sca#heading=h.6x0zzcpxod1).
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### Funding/training matters
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Caterina/Eduardo + others from the UK planning to put in a (small funding-wise) UK proposal centered around preparing and collecting material on environmentally sustainable software.
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Caterina/Eduardo + others from the UK planning to put in a (small funding-wise) UK proposal centered around preparing and collecting material on environmentally sustainable software.
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Question to be discussed with Stefan: how to best integrate this in HSF training (using the same infrastructure = TeSS)?
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Question to be discussed with Stefan: how to best integrate this in HSF training (using the same infrastructure = TeSS)?
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### IRIS-HEP update
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After a few months of postponements, we will present HSF feedback at the next IRIS-HEP SB meeting on Oct 7th:
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https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zrV0P_kIDxwDS9bZsYYE6S3HXPUsaEXfKkQUYr8EjmA/edit?slide=id.p#slide=id.p
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After a few months of postponements, we will present [HSF feedback](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zrV0P_kIDxwDS9bZsYYE6S3HXPUsaEXfKkQUYr8EjmA/edit?slide=id.p#slide=id.p) at the next IRIS-HEP SB meeting on Oct 7th
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Presentation needs a dust-off (please help with things that I forgot since July!)
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- Need to progress on properly co-organising these.
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- From CD/GS/ER chat on WLCG environmental sustainability forum: are there any objections to moving seminars, compute & accelerator forum, and WLCG environmental sustainability forum into the same category?
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- From CD/GS/ER chat on WLCG environmental sustainability forum: are there any objections to moving seminars, compute & accelerator forum, and WLCG environmental sustainability forum into the same category?
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- Potential category “Joint HSF, WLCG and Compute & Accelerator Forum events” here <https://indico.cern.ch/category/11728/> (owned by Stefan?)
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- Agreed to make a move towards CERN/Seminars.
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