From 9bff2c203002c10d20330d08bdd6cadccfb713e3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Graeme A Stewart Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 16:55:44 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 1/4] 3 July minutes --- .../_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md | 148 ++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 148 insertions(+) create mode 100644 organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md diff --git a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7965373f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md @@ -0,0 +1,148 @@ +--- +title: "HSF Coordination Meeting #291, 3 July 2025" +layout: plain_toc +--- + +## Attending + +Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Peter Fackeldey, Eduardo Rodrigues, Ines Ochoa, Ianna Osborne, Joe Osborn, Torre Wenaus, Valentin Volkl, Saptaparna Battacharya, Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Michel Hernandez Villanueva, Pere Mato, Michel Jouvin, Luke Kreczko, Juan Miguel Carceller, Alexander Moreno, Mark Neubauer, Claire Antel, Maciej Pawel Szymanski + +Apologies/Contributing: + +## News, general matters, announcements + +### Letter of Cooperation for CAREER + +Eduardo has circulated a [draft letter](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vs3TSsqPIqkJ_iqxRiqKXc4wyMpO889aTR7a4q8qpfM/edit?usp=sharing) of cooperation for the NSF proposal *CAREER: Exploring Exotic and Rare Processes with New Hardware Trigger Tools at ATLAS* from Ben Carlson. + +*The meeting approved the letter.* + +### European Strategy Update (EPPSU) + +Computing session at Venice went very well: + +- Presentation on various aspects during the 3 hour parallel session +- 2 talks during the plenary session, one about HL-LHC, one about future beyond it + - Parallel session slides: and + - Plenary session slides: + - Plenary also has video save to YouTube here: + +WLCG noted that current projections for computing needs will not fit into "flat budget" - so more software R&D is needed. Tommaso also noted that little concrete progress had been made with careers. + +Our EPPSU submission has been submitted EPJ-C. + +### IRIS-HEP Steering Board + +Caterina Doglioni is the new HSF representative at IRIS-HEP is preparing [slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zrV0P_kIDxwDS9bZsYYE6S3HXPUsaEXfKkQUYr8EjmA/edit?usp=sharing) from the HSF. The presentation is scheduled on July 15. + +### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum + +Venice workshop report tentatively scheduled for September. dCache project have signalled interest in presenting in a future Seminar. A seminar on HS3 will be organised also in the future. + +How to format "seminar" on Venice symposium? + +- Engaging discussion, or.. +- (unbiased) report of highlights and key statements? +- Suggest inviting Borut and/or Tommaso for this to give a summary of the outcomes and main messages (and they may prefer October, after the briefing book?) + +HSF seminar conveners are reachable at + +- Please send your suggestions for next seminars, **particularly from the activity areas**. + +### Steering Group + +Eduardo Rodrigues has been elected the new HSF Steering Group chair, effective 1 July. Congratulations to Eduardo and thanks for taking on this important role! + +A HUGE thanks again to Graeme for being SG chair for the past year and for all his (long-standing) impactful commitment! + +- There will be a SG meeting soon in July. Then back in September. + +### HSF Affiliated Projects and Software + +We will work on a new version of the project affiliation (streamlined, no bronze, silver, gold) - will be circulated for discussion when it's ready. + +## Activities Updates + +### Software Training + +- [Hackathon](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1565267/) on [Databases for HEP](https://hsf-training.github.io/hsf-training-databases-basics/index.html) on July 7. + - Finishing the chapters, giving some consistency between examples and exercises + - We will try to develop a bonus chapter on Grafana dashboards + - Switching from "old" Carpentries style to JupyterBook + +- [Deep Learning Train-the-Trainer Workshop](https://indico.desy.de/event/47263/) - Sept 15-19. + - Organized by the HSF and ErUM-Data-Hub + - In-person in Potsdam + - Registration is still open! Deadline: August 4. 17 people registered! + +### PyHEP + +- [PyHEP.dev 2025 workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/e/PyHEP2025.dev) organisation being finalised: + - More than 30 participants confirmed + - 12 abstracts accepted + - Talks in the mornings, discussions & hacking sessions in the afternoons + - Registration & abstract submission closes tomorrow, timetable will be finalized right after + +- [PyHEP users (virtual) workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/e/PyHEP2025) (October 27-30, 2025): + - Need an agenda event created + - Planning the (invited) talks: + - Already have one: rabbit - TensorFlow based fitting library (similar to CMS Combine) + - Columnar analysis with Awkward Array and Uproot + +- PyHEP topical meetings: + - "NanoAOD and RNTuple - Uproot" talk-discussion involving the analysis and xpog people from LHC experiments lead by Andres Rios-Tascon + +### JuliaHEP + +- [JuliaHEP 2025 Workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/event/1488852/) will be held at Princeton from July 28 to 31. + - Final registration deadline: July 7 + - 40 people registered so far + - 3.5 days + - ~20 Talks + - ~4 Tutorials + - Keynote Talk: Stefan Karpinksi + +### GSoC program 2025 + +- 26 GSoC projects ongoing + - 8 related to EP-SFT + - wide variety of topics: ML, green software, IT, compression... +- Admins don't have much news - good sign? +- Midterm evaluations for shortest projects approaching (Mid-july) + - mentors should contact admins if they want an extension + - should also not be afraid to fail students when it doesn't work out +- We'll invite the students to the SFT induction event next week. (Danilo gives a nice overview over computing in HEP). + - https://indico.cern.ch/event/1564721/ + - will send out mail soon. Mentors: please forward to gsoc students +- If someone is willing to give a brief introduction to the HSF (and maybe the training program) that would be very welcome. + - Training group have some suitable material, will arrange details offline + +### Event generators + +- Event generators for FCC-ee/Higgs factory: + +Enrico Bothmann will talk about Sherpa for FCC-ee on July 24th at 17:00 CERN. Indico agenda will be available soon. + +## AOB + +### Physical Constants / HEPdata Library + +Reminder: we are proposing a C++ header-only library that defines physical constants and some salient HEPdata in a lightweight, eaasy-to-use manner. Also taking into account versioning. + +We are discussing a next meeting for this, probably next week. Please let Graeme know if you'd like to be kept in the loop. + +### NGT/openlab Optimising Floating Point Computation + +Very interesting workshop - a particular highlight was work on emulating FP32, FP64 with lower precision types (like bFloat16). + +Enrico Bothmann also gave an excellent talk explaining how the mathematics of event generation give rise to stringent requirements on numerical precision. + + + +### Next Meeting + +The next coordination meeting will be 17 July, , Stefan will chair. + +### Chair This Meeting 👇 + +Please [sign up](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit) for chairing a future coordination meeting. (There is even a [HOWTO guide](https://hepsoftwarefoundation.org/organization/running-meetings.html)). From 1dd05a8dc5dbb5db4248a0d6d975cdf005ce5773 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Graeme A Stewart Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 16:57:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 2/4] Typos --- organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md index 7965373f3..147ac77e4 100644 --- a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md +++ b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md @@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ We will work on a new version of the project affiliation (streamlined, no bronze - Midterm evaluations for shortest projects approaching (Mid-july) - mentors should contact admins if they want an extension - should also not be afraid to fail students when it doesn't work out -- We'll invite the students to the SFT induction event next week. (Danilo gives a nice overview over computing in HEP). +- We'll invite the students to the SFT induction event next week. (Danilo gives a nice overview of computing in HEP). - https://indico.cern.ch/event/1564721/ - will send out mail soon. Mentors: please forward to gsoc students - If someone is willing to give a brief introduction to the HSF (and maybe the training program) that would be very welcome. @@ -127,7 +127,7 @@ Enrico Bothmann will talk about Sherpa for FCC-ee on July 24th at 17:00 CERN. In ### Physical Constants / HEPdata Library -Reminder: we are proposing a C++ header-only library that defines physical constants and some salient HEPdata in a lightweight, eaasy-to-use manner. Also taking into account versioning. +Reminder: we are proposing a C++ header-only library that defines physical constants and some salient HEPdata in a lightweight, easy-to-use manner. Also taking into account versioning. We are discussing a next meeting for this, probably next week. Please let Graeme know if you'd like to be kept in the loop. From 25b7498dc74ef13d6f5fe7e02861f739813f01de Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Graeme A Stewart Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 19:37:27 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 3/4] Update organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md Co-authored-by: Eduardo Rodrigues --- organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md index 147ac77e4..7805e198b 100644 --- a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md +++ b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ Eduardo has circulated a [draft letter](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vs3T Computing session at Venice went very well: -- Presentation on various aspects during the 3 hour parallel session +- Presentations on various aspects during the 3-hour parallel session - 2 talks during the plenary session, one about HL-LHC, one about future beyond it - Parallel session slides: and - Plenary session slides: From 21738e150f91f17110a7f2fb88261c07a0050ed7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Graeme A Stewart Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 19:38:39 +0200 Subject: [PATCH 4/4] Apply suggestions from code review Co-authored-by: Eduardo Rodrigues --- organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md | 8 ++++---- 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md index 7805e198b..08e2b510f 100644 --- a/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md +++ b/organization/_posts/2025/2025-07-03-coordination.md @@ -29,11 +29,11 @@ Computing session at Venice went very well: WLCG noted that current projections for computing needs will not fit into "flat budget" - so more software R&D is needed. Tommaso also noted that little concrete progress had been made with careers. -Our EPPSU submission has been submitted EPJ-C. +Our EPPSU submission has been submitted to EPJ-C. ### IRIS-HEP Steering Board -Caterina Doglioni is the new HSF representative at IRIS-HEP is preparing [slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zrV0P_kIDxwDS9bZsYYE6S3HXPUsaEXfKkQUYr8EjmA/edit?usp=sharing) from the HSF. The presentation is scheduled on July 15. +Caterina Doglioni, as the new HSF representative at IRIS-HEP, is preparing [slides](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1zrV0P_kIDxwDS9bZsYYE6S3HXPUsaEXfKkQUYr8EjmA/edit?usp=sharing) from the HSF. The presentation is scheduled for July 15. ### HSF Seminar Series and Compute Accelerator Forum @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ We will work on a new version of the project affiliation (streamlined, no bronze ### PyHEP -- [PyHEP.dev 2025 workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/e/PyHEP2025.dev) organisation being finalised: +- [PyHEP.dev 2025 workshop](https://indico.cern.ch/e/PyHEP2025.dev) organisation being finalised (July 14–17, 2025): - More than 30 participants confirmed - 12 abstracts accepted - Talks in the mornings, discussions & hacking sessions in the afternoons @@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ We will work on a new version of the project affiliation (streamlined, no bronze - mentors should contact admins if they want an extension - should also not be afraid to fail students when it doesn't work out - We'll invite the students to the SFT induction event next week. (Danilo gives a nice overview of computing in HEP). - - https://indico.cern.ch/event/1564721/ + - - will send out mail soon. Mentors: please forward to gsoc students - If someone is willing to give a brief introduction to the HSF (and maybe the training program) that would be very welcome. - Training group have some suitable material, will arrange details offline