SDR-J-FM 3.0 Feedback

[andrewfer000]

Not an issue but just some feedback on the latest version of the sofrware. Most feedback is about the new UI.

First off, I got to say you got the RDS decoding is really good compared to the last version. The text cuts off by a few characters at times but still it's night and day better. However RDS kind of breaks when AFC is enabled but when that's disabled it's really good. There is no difference between RDS-1 and RDS-2 for the AFC and character thing I mentioned.

The new UI looks cool and is something I enjoy having on my TV. My only suggestion is that the RDS display is slightly larger and different parts can be resized, specifically the bookmarks.

I don't know if it's my KDE theme or sdr_j_fm but when clicking in the drop down menu text can be hard to see. It's still visible but I can see some people having trouble with it.

Also I found getting started pretty hard. As someone who is tech savvy I know what many of these options do. However a new user may have trouble. The tooltips are helpful but are still technical. Maybe a future version can have some settings presets such as "FM USA" or "FM Europe" etc. that a user can choose from to get up and running right away. I also didn't know about the new volume control and was wondering why I had no sound to realize the volume slider was at -999 which took me a few minutes to figure out.

Here's a screenshot of my setup if you're curious and/or you want to share it as a screenshot on the ReadMe

Btw, Here is what I'm talking about a few characters being cut off. It's not bad but I find it interesting how it's only 1-3 characters every time. Mostly it's been 1 character.

I see you put a lot of hard work in this version. Thanks again for maintaining and improving this program. This new version was a pleasant and unexpected surprise for me. Really made my day!

[JvanKatwijk]

Thanks You (we) should thank Thomas Neder for hid contributions and the boost it gave to the development of the software. Thomas write the matching Rds decoder, introduced the new layout and made a number of further additions in the code. I ll have a look at the color of the combobox texts best jan Op wo 14 dec. 2022 om 08:37 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>:

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Not an issue but just some feedback on the latest version of the sofrware. Most feedback is about the new UI. First off, I got to say you got the RDS decoding is really good compared to the last version. The text cuts off by a few characters at times but still it's night and day better. However RDS kind of breaks when AFC is enabled but when that's disabled it's really good. There is no difference between RDS-1 and RDS-2 for the AFC and character thing I mentioned. The new UI looks cool and is something I enjoy having on my TV. My only suggestion is that the RDS display is slightly larger and different parts can be resized, specifically the bookmarks. I don't know if it's my KDE theme or sdr_j_fm but when clicking in the drop down menu text can be hard to see. It's still visible but I can see some people having trouble with it. Also I found getting started pretty hard. As someone who is tech savvy I know what many of these options do. However a new user may have trouble. The tooltips are helpful but are still technical. Maybe a future version can have some settings presets such as "FM USA" or "FM Europe" etc. that a user can choose from to get up and running right away. I also didn't know about the new volume control and was wondering why I had no sound to realize the volume slider was at -999 which took me a few minutes to figure out. Here's a screenshot of my setup if you're curious and/or you want to share it as a screenshot on the ReadMe [image: image] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9620913/207531958-5366a2bb-37c9-48d2-8116-326e8f4c206f.png> Btw, Here is what I'm talking about a few characters being cut off. It's not bad but I find it interesting how it's only 1-3 characters every time. Mostly it's been 1 character. [image: image] <https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9620913/207532370-9a55cb6d-70ae-41d8-8185-4217b030ad31.png> I see you put a lot of hard work in this version. Thanks again for maintaining and improving this program. This new version was a pleasant and unexpected surprise for me. Really made my day! — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQEGLIXTA7H67WX3HTLWNF2L3ANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> . You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[andrewfer000]

I did run into one problem however. The bookmarks I added did not save after the program was closed. Deleting the stations bin file in my hone directory and trying again did not fix it. The new stations bin file was not created. This is the appimage version.

[JvanKatwijk]

Assuming you compile the stuff yourself, you could give the current version a try. I changed the background color of comboboxes and the program list is now explicitly stored on program exit Op wo 14 dec. 2022 om 21:06 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>:

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I did run into one problem however. The bookmarks I added did not save after the program was closed. Deleting the stations bin file in my hone directory and trying again did not fix it. The new stations bin file was not created. This is the appimage version. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQGR5MGDJOKQPVFU3UDWNISFFANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[tomneda]

Hello Andrew and Jan,

Andrew: "thank you for the flowers" (as we say for the commendation in Germany) :-). I could set up my improvements onto a well working, stable "basis" which Jan did and makes much fun to do that improvements.

Jan: Thank you also I could let include most of my changes in your code. They are still some issues open as Andrew found also some. I guess I could do some further work the next days and try to improve things.

Jan: the bad readable coloring in combo-boxes is still existing at my side (in Xubuntu, in Window I could not try yet). What it also bad on the "Adaptic" stylesheet are the check-boxes. They have green rectangles when they are checked. So far so good. But they also show that green rectangle when only the mouse is hovering over that check box even it is not checked; this clutters somehow. This was the reason I preferred the other stylesheet "Combinear". But your choose with "Adaptic" is quite more colorful what I would also prefer else. I know currently nothing about stylesheets but I could also try to change this behavior.

I would like write a bit more but it is late now I had to work tomorrow (better: today), but I will give a notice later of any progress.

Jan: I did not write you a mail to thank for the merge as the other three (in sequence) mails to you still "open". I did not want to create a further parallel thread :)

[JvanKatwijk]

Since discussion on "skin"s is probably never ending, I added a command line parameter where you can set the skin If you pass -A to the command line, the system will set (and record) your preference for the current one, if you pass -B to the command line, the system will set (and record) your preference for the other one Thomas: I "honored" your pull request best jan Op vr 16 dec. 2022 om 02:13 schreef tomneda ***@***.***>:

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Hello Andrew and Jan, Andrew: "thank you for the flowers" (as we say for the commendation in Germany) :-). I could set up my improvements onto a well working, stable "basis" which Jan did and makes much fun to do that improvements. Jan: Thank you also I could let include most of my changes in your code. They are still some issues open as Andrew found also some. I guess I could do some further work the next days and try to improve things. Jan: the bad readable coloring in combo-boxes is still existing at my side (in Xubuntu, in Window I could not try yet). What it also bad on the "Adaptic" stylesheet are the check-boxes. They have green rectangles when they are checked. So far so good. But they also show that green rectangle when only the mouse is hovering over that check box even it is not checked; this clutters somehow. This was the reason I preferred the other stylesheet "Combinear". But your choose with "Adaptic" is quite more colorful what I would also prefer else. I know currently nothing about stylesheets but I could also try to change this behavior. I would like write a bit more but it is late now I had to work tomorrow (better: today), but I will give a notice later of any progress. Jan: I did not write you a mail to thank for the merge as the other three (in sequence) mails to you still "open". I did not want to create a further parallel thread :) — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAPUYIHYG57TKU44RLWNO64FANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[andrewfer000]

Andrew: "thank you for the flowers" (as we say for the commendation in Germany) :-). I could set up my improvements onto a well working, stable "basis" which Jan did and makes much fun to do that improvements.

Yeah your welcome I think you did an incredible job with this. All the features work very well and if you continue to work on features and/or fixes and need anything (testing, InputDumps, etc...) let me know.

I don't know about Germany. But in the USA we still use Analog radio everywhere and have no real good digital standard. We have something called HD Radio (NRSC5-C) for digital which is okay but when it comes to audio quality is drastically inferior compared to the global DAB+ and even DRM and HD is technically proprietary so HD Radios are rare and expensive unlike DAB radios you can get pretty much anywhere. Analog has less features but the sound quality is much better in many cases. This is why Analog radio programs that are easy to use and have cool features like RDS decoding is nice to have. So yeah thanks again for your hard work.

[andrewfer000]

Hey one more thing about RDS-

I learned that the PTY codes are different in North America than they are in Europe.

https://www.fmsystems-inc.com/rbds-rds-pty-codes-program-types/

Is there a place in the code or a file somewhere that I can change for these?

Also how do I compile on Linux? I used to know how but I forgot since the appimage release. Also since then I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora so I need to figure out the different libraries I need to install. Do you just use regular make or something like cmake or qumake?

[JvanKatwijk]

I'll have a look tomorrow, seems possible to maake a separate table Today I am a little budy wwith other things best jan Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 07:36 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>:

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Hey one more thing about RDS- I learned that the PTY codes are different in North America than they are in Europe. https://www.fmsystems-inc.com/rbds-rds-pty-codes-program-types/ Is there a place in the code or a file somewhere that I can change for these? Also how do I compile on Linux? I used to know how but I forgot since the appimage release. Also since then I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora so I need to figure out the different libraries I need to install. Do you just use regular make or something like cmake or qumake? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAQ3B7NRFC2ZJBUCVTWN2WGHANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

-- Jan van Katwijk

[JvanKatwijk]

It seems possible to add a parameter in the ini file, I'll add it tomorrow Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 18:41 schreef jan van katwijk ***@***.***

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: I'll have a look tomorrow, seems possible to maake a separate table Today I am a little budy wwith other things best jan Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 07:36 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>: > Hey one more thing about RDS- > > I learned that the PTY codes are different in North America than they are > in Europe. > > https://www.fmsystems-inc.com/rbds-rds-pty-codes-program-types/ > > Is there a place in the code or a file somewhere that I can change for > these? > > Also how do I compile on Linux? I used to know how but I forgot since the > appimage release. Also since then I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora so I > need to figure out the different libraries I need to install. Do you just > use regular make or something like cmake or qumake? > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#9 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAQ3B7NRFC2ZJBUCVTWN2WGHANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> > . > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > -- Jan van Katwijk

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[JvanKatwijk]

It is an almost trrivial addition, are you running a Windows version ora Linux version? Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 18:50 schreef jan van katwijk ***@***.***

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: It seems possible to add a parameter in the ini file, I'll add it tomorrow Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 18:41 schreef jan van katwijk < ***@***.***>: > I'll have a look tomorrow, seems possible to maake a separate table > Today I am a little budy wwith other things > best > jan > > > Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 07:36 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>: > >> Hey one more thing about RDS- >> >> I learned that the PTY codes are different in North America than they >> are in Europe. >> >> https://www.fmsystems-inc.com/rbds-rds-pty-codes-program-types/ >> >> Is there a place in the code or a file somewhere that I can change for >> these? >> >> Also how do I compile on Linux? I used to know how but I forgot since >> the appimage release. Also since then I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora so I >> need to figure out the different libraries I need to install. Do you just >> use regular make or something like cmake or qumake? >> >> — >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> <#9 (comment)>, >> or unsubscribe >> <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAQ3B7NRFC2ZJBUCVTWN2WGHANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> >> . >> You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: >> ***@***.***> >> > > > -- > Jan van Katwijk > > > > -- Jan van Katwijk

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[JvanKatwijk]

Hi Andrew I added a button (bottom line, left) where you can specify that you are either in Europe or in the US. Setting will be remembered between program invocations and the effect is immerdiately. I figured that there pty codes in say Australia or so might differ as well, so the set up is that adding a new list of pty codes is (almost) trivial. (the setting for the deemphasis will be maintained between program invocations as well) I updated the Windows executable and the AppImage, so you might give it a try best jan Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 19:15 schreef jan van katwijk ***@***.***

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: It is an almost trrivial addition, are you running a Windows version ora Linux version? Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 18:50 schreef jan van katwijk < ***@***.***>: > It seems possible to add a parameter in the ini file, I'll add it tomorrow > > > Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 18:41 schreef jan van katwijk < > ***@***.***>: > >> I'll have a look tomorrow, seems possible to maake a separate table >> Today I am a little budy wwith other things >> best >> jan >> >> >> Op zo 18 dec. 2022 om 07:36 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>: >> >>> Hey one more thing about RDS- >>> >>> I learned that the PTY codes are different in North America than they >>> are in Europe. >>> >>> https://www.fmsystems-inc.com/rbds-rds-pty-codes-program-types/ >>> >>> Is there a place in the code or a file somewhere that I can change for >>> these? >>> >>> Also how do I compile on Linux? I used to know how but I forgot since >>> the appimage release. Also since then I switched from Ubuntu to Fedora so I >>> need to figure out the different libraries I need to install. Do you just >>> use regular make or something like cmake or qumake? >>> >>> — >>> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >>> <#9 (comment)>, >>> or unsubscribe >>> <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQAQ3B7NRFC2ZJBUCVTWN2WGHANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> >>> . >>> You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: >>> ***@***.***> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jan van Katwijk >> >> >> >> > > -- > Jan van Katwijk > > > > -- Jan van Katwijk

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[andrewfer000]

Hey Jvan,

It works well. My bookmarks now save and the PTY makes a lot more sense now lol.

I think the PTY codes are only different in North America.

Like everything else when it comes to technology, North America always has to do something different and technically inferior compared to everyone else. (Looking at you too ATSC TV and HD Radio)

In any case, Thanks again for all your hard work. I use this program almost everyday to listen to my news and music so I appreciate it.

[JvanKatwijk]

Just for my information, do you run windows or Linux? Op ma 19 dec. 2022 om 17:31 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>:

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Hey Jvan, It works well. My bookmarks now save and the PTY makes a lot more sense now lol. I think the PTY codes are only different in North America. Like everything else when it comes to technology, North America always has to do something different and technically inferior compared to everyone else. (Looking at you too ATSC TV and HD Radio) In any case, Thanks again for all your hard work. I use this program almost everyday to listen to my news and music so I appreciate it. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#9 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ACCPHQASXXTYB43MYICVHWLWOCEVLANCNFSM6AAAAAAS6D3WDQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[andrewfer000]

I run Linux specifically Fedora.

[JvanKatwijk]

Oh good, so do I, I develop under Fedora Op ma 19 dec. 2022 om 18:09 schreef Andrew ***@***.***>:

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