Show Tier#, Tier# range, TierMax# range for value attribution (Give us ALL the POE2DB data context please)

[DeusKadamony]

See Image with annotation in lower right.
Expected feature: Tier # is often missing from the tool for armor/evasion/energySh stats, requiring users to double check in game for high rolls on those modifiers.
Extended feature: Please show in addition to the Tier # in the expanded view, the range of potential stat options for the current tier, and also the upper most tier (to gague relative tier value)

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TOOL! I have a hard time reading in game due to the font size and transparency tier #s not to mention constantly checking POE2 DB to figure out relative tier value. This tool is an insane time saver. Would love to support the tool as it becomes more useful.

[tmakuch]

Hey @DeusKadamony,
there was already proposal (and implementation) for showing range of the current tier but it was closed with 'just use alt' (you can see the discussion here - #468).

[DeusKadamony]

Look at my point(s) again please. Just use alt is a cop out for not using the tool for its intended purpose. First off, I cant read the tier # in game (not the current tier range, the number)it is constantly transparent on the background and illegible. I dont want to have to use in game at all to ascertain an items value relative to maxroll (maxroll tailored to the item's level would be nice but I wont be picky). I am asking for the POE2DB tier data replicated on the image in the app so I dont have to use POE2DB and constantly switch back and forth. The alt data is NOT the same. that is merely the range of the current tier.

I want to see, minimally, the current tier, the max # of possible tiers, the max value of the highest possible tier, see 117 and 107 in the image. The current tier is not nearly as important as the max range of what armor or evasion is on the best roll. Some modifiers scale differently than others. Some have even distribution and linear such as energy shield +20-100%. In those case it isn't a huge value hit from being close to highest tier at maxroll. Cast speed is another one, there is a narrow range between all the tiers, difference is negligible being tier max-1. Some are confusing as heck such as staff spell skill. T5 is actually spell skill +5-6 so you may be sitting at 4 thinking it only goes up to 5 since you are T4 out of 5. Anyways, I shouldnt have to make a case as to why this data is important to know, everyone worth their salt practically lives in POEDB. It's a huge learning curve without a handy cheatsheet tool like this. Get us out of that website and stick it here. Flip a verbose option if people dont want it, not big deal, there is already even one in there. For this item I want to see when i highlight the armor area (as shown) "Sturdy" Armor + 69 -- T5 (66-78) / T7 (99-117). Another example, show me "Level of all cold spell skills +4 -- T3 (4) / T4 (5-6). If anything's messy its the inconsistency of how this game distributes modifier values. I'm not asking for the full chart, but you know that would be nice. And why is it shared the "Sturdy" modifier tier name? Useless information, if people are supposedly touchy about verbosity that should be the first thing to go and be replaced by this data.

Also my other point, which I will now be blunt for clarity, is the skill modifiers surrounding armor, energy shield, evasion are bugged. They sometimes show, and sometimes dont. So the tool is pretty much useless to save time if I constantly have to check for those mods are represented in game vs the tool. The image clearly shows that example where "Sturdy" is identified yet shows zero information about the "Tier 5 /7". So I cant make a full decision based on the data in the tool. I see this in there properly sometimes but not all the time depending which specific defense modifier, usually the hybrid ones tend to not show like this one. Elemental tiers also do not show, and are lumped into DPS which may as well delete all the rarity indicators since nobody has any reference point with DPS...

Also please clearly identify which are prefix and suffix, and if there is an empty modifier slot. This is absolutely essential for understanding if something needs to be crafted or sold to NPC.

[tmakuch]

@DeusKadamony, sorry for the miscommunication and not providing context. I believe this is a great suggestion from your side

I'm with you on the part that having more information in one place is a good thing. :) I was the one that provided implementation for showing ranges, as I believe this is a good information to have if I decide to look up mods in the tool. But repo owner decided this would make the component too busy.

I'm just like you, found an element that I believed could use improvement and since I find coding and supporting project I like fun, I just took it step further and implemented what I could. I didn't want to down shoot your idea, I wanted to link similar ideas together and provide you some historical context around it. If more people request a given feature I believe this will be a good signal for Kvan that more people find it useful and should be prioritized

To be fair and as a technical note, ranges for the current tier were the easy part as we already have this information in ee2 from the item itself (current tier # + ranges for the current tier), I dont think we have full database of all possible tier list in ee2 yet and that would have to be pulled and added to ee2, thus requires bit more work. I just did the easy part

[Kvan7]

Tier missing is fixed for next release 6515f24

Full poe2db data is not currently in scope. I think it is a decent feature to have but would require much better data parsing. I'll consider when i do a rewrite of the data parser since the current one would not be able to do this at all. For now you can do an item check and hit the button to open in Craft of Exile(or bind to hotkey), which will load the item and show all possible mods that item can have on it. Still external but allows you to open the page in one button press.

Adding current tier range to the sources view makes it look cluttered, so for the specific mod on the item, the best option is pressing alt to view the range in the blue text.

[DeusKadamony]

Thank you for the fix! I find this tool extremely handy with a lot of potential to save time and be more effective so we can spend less time in the menus head-scratching. External links to the data I requested is sufficient for now. I completely missed this feature because where it says "NOT SET" in options > Item Info, I didnt know that was a hotkey to configure. Recommend setting some basic direction there.

There's definitely a lot of untapped potential here with enhancing the descriptors and formatting, so I am excited that there may be updated parsing in the future! Keep up the great work.

[DeusKadamony]

On second look its going to poe2db but only to the base item. Can you please add a hotkey page link to go directly to the modifiers of that item type in POE2DB? Not the base item stats, but the modifiers for it such as:
https://poe2db.tw/us/Shields_str_int#ModifiersCalc
From there we can get to the tables we are all looking for. Thanks!

[Kvan7]

you can use craft of exile hotkey for mods. it provides more info so that is the preferred option.

[DeusKadamony]

Craft of Exile does not have the same info (EDIT: I can see now if you click the row items in craft of exile it expands it). This comes down to preference, and multiple mouse context changes. In craft of exile website, formatting is terrible, and takes way too much time to decipher where the modifier on the page is that I care about which is why I look the item up in the first place. I don't see why the POE2DB link cant be updated to point to modifiers item type page as another hotkey option. Easy to implement right? Does anyone even look up base item stats ever? That's what it points to when I look up the item in POE2DB. You could change where it points to, I doubt you will get any complaints.

It's mainly annoying to have to make multiple mouse clicks when the whole point of this tool is to save mouse clicks and context changes. We already have the data on the internet, this tool is supposed to change accessibility and its already made strides much larger than my feature requests. When we hover over the modifier (see original pic from first post) I feel like this data should be provided in the same glace (as pictured, table on the right). You've already implemented a mouse over, cant it pop up the modifier tier range image from there easy enough?

[DeusKadamony]

Bump edit