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Microsoft Defender Antivirus and third-party antivirus solutions without Defender for Endpoint
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# Microsoft Defender Antivirus and third-party antivirus solutions without Defender for Endpoint
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__Applies to:__
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- [Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Plan 1](/defender-endpoint/microsoft-defender-endpoint)
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- [Microsoft Defender for Individuals](https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-365/microsoft-defender-for-individuals)
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- Microsoft Defender Antivirus
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This section describes what happens when you use Microsoft Defender Antivirus alongside non-Microsoft antivirus/antimalware products on endpoints that aren't onboarded to Defender for Endpoint.
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Microsoft Defender Antivirus doesn't run in passive mode on devices that aren't onboarded to Defender for Endpoint.
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The following table summarizes what to expect:
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| Windows version |Primary antivirus/antimalware solution|Microsoft Defender Antivirus state|
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| -------- | -------- | -------- |
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|Windows 11 and Windows 10 |Microsoft Defender Antivirus|Active mode|
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|Windows 11 and Windows 10|A non-Microsoft antivirus solution|Disabled mode (happens automatically).|
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|Windows Server 2025, Windows Server 2022, Windows Server 2019, Windows Server, version 1803 or newer, Windows Server 2016|Microsoft Defender Antivirus|Active mode|
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|Windows Server 2025, Windows Server 2022, Windows Server 2019, Windows Server, version 1803 or newer, Windows Server 2016|A non-Microsoft antivirus solution|Disabled (set manually; see the note that follows this table)|
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> [!NOTE]
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> On Windows Server, if you're running a non-Microsoft antivirus product, you can uninstall Microsoft Defender Antivirus by using the following PowerShell cmdlet (as an administrator): `Uninstall-WindowsFeature Windows-Defender`. Restart your server to finish removing Microsoft Defender Antivirus. On Windows Server 2016, you might see *Windows Defender Antivirus* instead of *Microsoft Defender Antivirus*. If you uninstall your non-Microsoft antivirus product, make sure that Microsoft Defender Antivirus is re-enabled. See **[Re-enable Microsoft Defender Antivirus on Windows Server if it was disabled](/defender-endpoint/enable-update-mdav-to-latest-ws)**.
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Check the services and filter drivers for Microsoft Defender Antivirus
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```powershell
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gsv WinDefend, WdBoot, WdFilter, WdNisSvc, WdNisDrv | ft -auto DisplayName, Name, StartType, Status
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|Display Name|Name|StartType|Status when Defender AV is enabled| Status when Defender AV is disabled| Comments |
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| -------- | -------- | -------- | -------- | -------- | -------- |
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|Microsoft Defender Antivirus Boot Driver |WdBoot|Boot |Stopped (0x0 Boot_start)| Stopped (0x3 Demand_start)|It’s normal to be stopped after boot. |
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|Microsoft Defender Antivirus Mini-Filter Driver|WdFilter|Manual |Running (0x0 Boot_start)|Stopped (0x3 Demand_start)|If a 3rd party AV is installed, then this will be stopped. |
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|Microsoft Defender Antivirus Network Inspection System Driver |WdNisDrv|Manual|Running (0x3 Demand_start)|Stopped (0x3 Demand_start)|If a 3rd party AV is installed, then this will be stopped. |
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|Microsoft Defender Antivirus Network Inspection Service |WdNisSvc|Manual|Running (0x3 Demand_start)|Stopped (0x3 Demand_start)|If a 3rd party AV is installed, then this will be stopped. |
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|Microsoft Defender Antivirus Service|WinDefend|Automatic|Running (0x2 Auto_start)|Stopped (0x3 Demand_start)|If a 3rd party AV is installed, then this will be stopped.|
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### Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
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Q: Can I update Microsoft Defender Antivirus components such as "Security intelligence update" or "Engine update" "Platform update" when Microsoft Defender Antivirus is disabled?
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A: No. When Microsoft Defender Antivirus is disabled, since the services and drivers are not running, you will not be able to update the components such as "Security intelligence update" or "Engine update" "Platform update".
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> [!TIP]
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> If you are migrating to Microsoft Defender for Endpoint, when onboarded, Microsoft Defender Antivirus will go into 'passive mode' in Windows clients and via a registry key in Windows Servers, where you will be able to update the different components of Microsoft Defender Antivirus.
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Q: Can I manually change the start type of the services and drivers for Microsoft Defender Antivirus?
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A: We do not support the manual modification of the start type of the services and drivers for Microsoft Defender Antivirus in Windows images. On Windows clients, the supported method is via the third-party antivirus solution registering to Windows Security Center (WSC) api. Or on Windows Servers uninstalling Microsoft Defender Antivirus feature, via the Roles and Features MMC or via Powershell (Run as admin):
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```powershell
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Uninstall-WindowsFeature Windows-Defender
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Q: Can I use Microsoft Defender Antivirus in "passive mode" without onboarding to Microsoft Defender for Endpoint?
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A: No. "Passive mode" is a functionality of Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Plan 2.
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Q: Can I use "EDR in block mode" without onboarding to Microsoft Defender for Endpoint?
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A: No. "EDR in block mode" is a functionality of Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Plan 2.
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Q: Can I use "Indicators" - "File hash" or "IP address/URL's" or "Certificates" with Microsoft Defender Antivirus (active mode) with M365 E3/A3 license?
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A: Yes, please review [Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Plan 1 Now Included in M365 E3/A3 Licenses](https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoftdefenderatpblog/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-plan-1-now-included-in-m365-e3a3-licenses/3060639) and [Overview of Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Plan 1](/defender-endpoint/defender-endpoint-plan-1)
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## See also
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- [Use Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Security Settings Management to manage Microsoft Defender Antivirus](/defender-endpoint/mde-security-settings-management)
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- [Microsoft Intune securely manages identities, manages apps, and manages devices](/mem/intune/fundamentals/what-is-intune)
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- [Defender CSP](/windows/client-management/mdm/defender-csp)
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- [Policy CSP - Defender](/windows/client-management/mdm/policy-csp-defender)
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- [How to create and deploy antimalware policies for Endpoint Protection in Configuration Manager](/mem/configmgr/protect/deploy-use/endpoint-antimalware-policies)
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- [Use Group Policy settings to configure and manage Microsoft Defender Antivirus](/defender-endpoint/use-group-policy-microsoft-defender-antivirus)
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- [Use PowerShell cmdlets to configure and manage Microsoft Defender Antivirus](/defender-endpoint/use-powershell-cmdlets-microsoft-defender-antivirus)
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- [Exclusions overview](/defender-endpoint/navigate-defender-endpoint-antivirus-exclusions)
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- [Address false positives/negatives in Microsoft Defender for Endpoint](/defender-endpoint/defender-endpoint-false-positives-negatives)
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- [Troubleshoot Microsoft Defender Antivirus settings](/defender-endpoint/troubleshoot-settings)
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- [Run the client analyzer on Windows](/defender-endpoint/run-analyzer-windows)
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- [Performance analyzer for Microsoft Defender Antivirus](/defender-endpoint/tune-performance-defender-antivirus)
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> [!TIP]
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> Do you want to learn more? Engage with the Microsoft Security community in our Tech Community: **[Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Tech Community](https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint/bd-p/MicrosoftDefenderATP)**.
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