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title: Endpoint detection and response (EDR) in block mode frequently asked questions (FAQ)
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Do I need to turn EDR in block mode on if I have Microsoft Defender Antivirus running on devices?
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Yes, Microsoft recommends enabling EDR in block mode, even when primary antivirus software on the system is Microsoft Defender Antivirus. EDR detections can be automatically remediated by [PUA protection](detect-block-potentially-unwanted-apps-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md) or by [automated investigation & remediation capabilities](automated-investigations.md) in block mode.
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The primary purpose of EDR in block mode is to remediate post-breach detections that were missed by a non-Microsoft antivirus product.
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Yes, Microsoft recommends enabling EDR in block mode, even when primary antivirus software on the system is Microsoft Defender Antivirus. The primary purpose of EDR in block mode is to remediate post-breach detections that were missed by a non-Microsoft antivirus product. However, there are scenarios where EDR in block mode might be beneficial, such as if Microsoft Defender Antivirus is misconfigured, or if [PUA protection](detect-block-potentially-unwanted-apps-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md) is not enabled. In such cases, EDR in block mode can automatically remediate detections like PUA.
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Will EDR in block mode affect a user's antivirus protection?
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EDR in block mode does not affect third-party antivirus protection running on users' devices. EDR in block mode works if the primary antivirus solution misses something, or if there is a post-breach detection. EDR in block mode works just like Microsoft Defender Antivirus in passive mode, except that EDR in block mode also blocks and remediates malicious artifacts or behaviors that are detected.
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EDR in block mode does not affect non-Microsoft antivirus protection running on users' devices. EDR in block mode works if the primary antivirus solution misses something, or if there is a post-breach detection. EDR in block mode works just like Microsoft Defender Antivirus in passive mode, except that EDR in block mode also blocks and remediates malicious artifacts or behaviors that are detected.
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Why do I need to keep Microsoft Defender Antivirus up to date?
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# Manage the sources for Microsoft Defender Antivirus protection updates
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Keeping your antivirus protection up to date is critical. There are two components to managing protection updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus:
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-*Where* the updates are downloaded from; and
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This article describes how to specify from where updates should be downloaded (this specification is also known as the fallback order). See [Manage Microsoft Defender Antivirus updates and apply baselines](microsoft-defender-antivirus-updates.md) article for an overview on how updates work, and how to configure other aspects of updates (such as scheduling updates).
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Typically, you configure endpoints to individually download updates from a primary source followed by other sources in order of priority, based on your network configuration. Updates are obtained from sources in the order you specify. If updates from the current source are out-of-date, the next source in the list is used immediately.
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When updates are published, some logic is applied to minimize the size of the update. In most cases, only the differences between the latest update and the update that is currently installed (the set of differences is referred to as the delta) on the device is downloaded and applied. However, the size of the delta depends on two main factors:
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When updates are published, logic is applied to minimize the size of the update. In most cases, only the differences between the latest update and the update that is currently installed is downloaded and applied to the device. The set of differences is referred to as the *delta*. The size of the delta depends on two main factors:
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The older the updates on an endpoint, the larger the download is. However, you must also consider download frequency as well. A more frequent update schedule can result in more network usage, whereas a less-frequent schedule can result in larger file sizes per download.
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|Microsoft Update|You want your endpoints to connect directly to Microsoft Update. This option is useful for endpoints that irregularly connect to your enterprise network, or if you don't use Windows Server Update Service to manage your updates.|
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|File share|You have non-Internet-connected devices (such as VMs). You can use your Internet-connected VM host to download the updates to a network share, from which the VMs can obtain the updates. See the [VDI deployment guide](deployment-vdi-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md) for how file shares are used in virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) environments.|
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|File share|You have devices that aren't connected to the Internet (such as virtual machines, or VMs). You can use your Internet-connected VM host to download the updates to a network share, from which the VMs can obtain the updates. See the [VDI deployment guide](deployment-vdi-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md) for how file shares are used in virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) environments.|
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|Security intelligence updates and platform updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus and other Microsoft anti-malware (formerly referred to as MMPC)|[Make sure your devices are updated to support SHA-2](https://support.microsoft.com/help/4472027/2019-sha-2-code-signing-support-requirement-for-windows-and-wsus). Microsoft Defender Antivirus Security intelligence and platform updates are delivered through Windows Update, and starting Monday October 21, 2019 security intelligence updates and platform updates are SHA-2 signed exclusively. <br/>Download the latest protection updates because of a recent infection or to help provision a strong, base image for [VDI deployment](deployment-vdi-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md). This option should generally be used only as a final fallback source, and not the primary source. It's only be used if updates can't be downloaded from Windows Server Update Service or Microsoft Update for [a specified number of days](manage-outdated-endpoints-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md#set-the-number-of-days-before-protection-is-reported-as-out-of-date).|
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|Security intelligence updates and platform updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus and other Microsoft anti-malware (formerly referred to as MMPC)|[Make sure devices are updated to support SHA-2](https://support.microsoft.com/help/4472027/2019-sha-2-code-signing-support-requirement-for-windows-and-wsus). Microsoft Defender Antivirus Security intelligence and platform updates are delivered through Windows Update. As of October 21, 2019, security intelligence updates and platform updates are SHA-2 signed exclusively. <br/>Download the latest protection updates because of a recent infection or to help provision a strong, base image for [VDI deployment](deployment-vdi-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md). This option should be used only as a final fallback source, and not the primary source. It's only to be used if updates can't be downloaded from Windows Server Update Service or Microsoft Update for [a specified number of days](manage-outdated-endpoints-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md#set-the-number-of-days-before-protection-is-reported-as-out-of-date).|
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## Use Group Policy to manage the update location
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1. On your Group Policy management machine, open the [Group Policy Management Console](/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2008-R2-and-2008/cc731212(v=ws.11)), right-click the Group Policy Object you want to configure and then select **Edit**.
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:::image type="content" source="/defender/media/wdav-order-update-sources.png" alt-text="Group policy setting listing the order of sources" lightbox="/defender/media/wdav-order-update-sources.png":::
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## What if we're using a non-Microsoft vendor?
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This article describes how to configure and manage updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus. However, you can hire third-party vendors to perform these tasks.
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This article describes how to configure and manage updates for Microsoft Defender Antivirus. However, you can hire non-Microsoft vendors to perform these tasks.
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For example, suppose that Contoso has hired Fabrikam to manage their security solution, which includes Microsoft Defender Antivirus. Fabrikam typically uses [Windows Management Instrumentation](./use-wmi-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md), [PowerShell cmdlets](./use-powershell-cmdlets-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md), or [Windows command-line](./command-line-arguments-microsoft-defender-antivirus.md) to deploy patches and updates.
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9. Run each task manually and verify that you have data (`mpam-d.exe`, `mpam-fe.exe`, and `nis_full.exe`) in the following folders (you might use different locations):
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