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Please publish DES blog containing clinical feedback of our ideas
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title: Clinical Voices – what we learned from feedback on DES cohorting ideas
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description: The clinical feedback gathered on our DES cohorting ideas
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date: 2025-10-24
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author: Chloe Eaborn
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tags:
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- discovery
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- cohort manager diabetic eye screening
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To ensure our proposed ideas were clinically sound and grounded in real-world practice, we engaged clinicians across several feedback sessions. These conversations helped validate our thinking, challenge assumptions, and surface new considerations for future scope discussions.
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We focused on three key areas:
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1. Validating cohorts using a second data source
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2. Reducing the burden of SNOMED code selection
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3. Defining the scope of a DES or diabetes wide repository
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## Key Themes from Clinical Feedback:
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### Cohort Validation
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- Type 1 diabetes patients were seen as easier to validate – clinicians noted that insulin prescriptions are a reliable indicator, making pharmacy data a strong secondary source.
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- Type 2 diabetes and HbA1c patients posed more challenges, with cohort accuracy issues often stemming from inconsistent coding.
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The 9 care processes were viewed as a good source of validation, though not without limitations.
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- Emerging data sources like Digital Health Checks and the Health Information Exchange (HIE) were highlighted as promising future assets.
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Clinicians questioned whether a “true” secondary source exists, noting that most rely on GP coding, which can be inconsistent or incomplete.
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### SNOMED Code Complexity
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- GPs currently use thousands of SNOMED codes, often without clear guidance. Many patients have 50+ codes, while those with only one or two are harder to assess.
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- A definitive DES SNOMED code was seen as valuable, especially for marking attendance, outcomes, and missed appointments (DNAs).
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- However, clinicians noted that unless GPs are financially incentivised, uptake of a new code would be limited, especially since they are paid to complete the 8 care processes, not DES-specific coding.
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- The historic context of codes (e.g. when they were applied) was seen as important for assigning confidence levels.
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- Concerns were raised about non-clinical staff coding and the lack of standardisation across practices, which contributes to inconsistencies.
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### Repository Scope and Integration
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- There was strong support for a centralised DES repository, with potential to expand to broader diabetes care.
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- Clinicians emphasised the need for better integration between DES and wider diabetes management, noting that screening currently operates in a silo.
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- The transition away from QOF reporting reduced GP engagement, particularly around managing inactive patients.
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- A national decision was recommended for handling non-active patients who haven’t attended their GP in over five years.
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- The date of diagnosis was flagged as a critical data point for understanding patient history and interpreting recent results.
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## Additional Insights
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- HbA1c levels were seen as useful for identifying high-risk patients and understanding engagement.
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- There was a call for more specific patient information, including pregnancy status, language needs, and accessibility requirements.
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- Clinicians suggested sending GPs a confirmation link to verify diabetes status for borderline cases.
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- The London Care Record (based on HIE) was mentioned as a model for enabling read-only access to patient data across health organisations.
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## How It Informed Our Next Steps
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- We are refining our MVP scope based on clinical insight, programme objectives, and commercial and contractual dependencies.
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- We’re assessing the feasibility of a feedback loop that enables bi-directional data flow between DESPs and GPs, supporting better cohort accuracy and care coordination.
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- We’re considering how clearer guidance and standardisation could support improved coding practices at the GP level, reducing variation and enhancing data quality.

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