Orleans 2.0.0

[bboyle1234]

Here's a bunch of code I wrote: It's my best effort at setting up a Redis storage provider for Orleans 2.0.

https://gist.github.com/bboyle1234/38e766d2f5baa3d94ac10bce30c04c3f

What's the way forward with Orleans 2.0? (Asking so I know how to contribute)

[galvesribeiro]

@bboyle1234 you can make a PR updating this provider to use Orleans 2.0.

I don't know who was the original maintainer but, if it feels abandoned, let me know and I can get a revamp on the project to make it work on 2.0 properly.

[martinothamar]

Started using a Redis storage provider in an internal project now, it's up to date with 2.0.0-beta3, I'd be happy to update this repo to beta3 or rc-1 in a pull request unless @bboyle1234 has already started.

[bboyle1234]

Hi @martinothamar @richorama @galvesribeiro , I've already made a pull request with code that performs multi-targeting. If the target framework is net461, it references Orleans 1.5.3, (basically no changes) and if it targets netstandard2.0 or netcoreapp2.0 then it references Orleans 2.0.0-beta3.

You can see a good example of the mult-framework targeting approach in theNewtonsoft.Json package.
From what I've seen of Orleans packages so far, the trend seems to be a bit different and I'm not sure how the people in charge here would intend setting up their branches and packages to support continued upgrades for net461 (1.xxx) and net core (2.xxx), so I'm a bit stalled on contributing as I don't know how to move ahead.

[galvesribeiro]

Guys, there is no reason for multitargeting IMHO.

Keep a stable version updated to 1.5.3 and make a new one moving forward for 2.0.

2.0 has a different configuration mechanics and when we talk about storage providers, there are different interfaces in the new storage mode (e.g. IGrainStorage).

So I would recommend to not try to keep this multitargeting as Orleans itself will evolve only on 2.0 line and 1.5.3 will only keep severe build fixes.

I can help and port this provider to 2.0 myself if noone already did that.

[martinothamar]

I'm having at it now, will submit pr later. I'll do 2.0.0-beta3 first (need it at work), then rc1. I see the dev branch is pretty old, merge the 2.0.0 stuff into dev? Keep master in sync with 1.5.x?

[bboyle1234]

Thank you @martinothamar, do you think we'll ever have a way to fix ETag functionality in the redis store? Any ideas?

[martinothamar]

Yeah I have a possible solution working, will submit a PR when we get 2.0.0-beta3 in

[richorama]

I would love to see a good solution to the ETag problem, especially if it could maintain backwards compatibility with existing state.

Going forward I accept @galvesribeiro advice. Orleans 2.0 has a number of differences. We should sunset the 1.x storage provider, and just focus on 2.0 (unless there are any objections?)

[galvesribeiro]

What is the etag problem? Doesn't Redis have ETag by itself and support conditional writes? If not, there are alternatives like the ones I did on AWS DynamoDb provider as it doesn't have ETag as well.

[richorama]

@galvesribeiro last time I checked it didn't have any Etag (or similar) support.

see issue #9

[galvesribeiro]

Ok... Did you guys checked that: https://github.com/StackExchange/StackExchange.Redis/blob/master/docs/Transactions.md#and-in-stackexchangeredis

It seems that even multiplexing connections (which I assume the provider is) you can kind of lock the transaction and put a constraint on its body which can evaluate a field which in this case, is the ETag.

Also, I noticed that the project still uses the old tooling and that is more one reason to hang a stable version now pre-2.0 and restructure the project solution upgrate to new .csproj format along with new Orleans 2.0 packages and its APIs. My VS can't even open the solution without migrate the projects :(

[galvesribeiro]

I could even suggest that that all the WRITE ops were made using Redis scripts (Lua scripts actually) just like I did for CosmosDB using JS procedures. That will ensure a db-level transaction guarantee.

[martinothamar]

I have a Lua-script for conditional write based on ETag, I can submit it later and we can all have a look.