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Sullivan, Trevor 9:30 AM:
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You sound fine
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Kurt Roggen [BE] 9:31 AM:
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:-)
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Glenn Sarti 9:31 AM:
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Ya for swag!
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:33 AM:
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#WhoNeedsBackups
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Simon Wåhlin 9:33 AM:
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What backup? #ItAllinTheCloud :D
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:33 AM:
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#LivingOnTheEdge
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Joey Aiello 9:33 AM:
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https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/powershell/2017/07/14/powershell-6-0-roadmap-coreclr-backwards-compatibility-and-more/
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Keith Hill 9:36 AM:
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The blog post says you are using .NET Standard 2.0. Is that really true? I thought you were actually targeting NetCoreApp2.0 / net4xx?
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:37 AM:
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I always install the latest beta as soon as it's available. :) Keeps getting better.
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Keith Hill 9:37 AM:
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Are you sharing?
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Keith Hill 9:37 AM:
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Are you sharing?
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:37 AM:
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I don't see anything sharing.
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Kurt Roggen [BE] 9:39 AM:
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Loading...
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Keith Hill 9:41 AM:
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RE: solve dev story in beta5/6 - thank you!
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Kurt Roggen [BE] 9:43 AM:
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compatibility assistant
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:44 AM:
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Any news around dependency management going forward?
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Darwin Sanoy 9:46 AM:
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Ok it's actually LuaBugLight by Aaron Margosis. I don't mean that the tool code could be reused - but the concept: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/aaron_margosis/2015/06/30/lua-buglight-2-3-with-support-for-windows-8-1-and-windows-10/
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Glenn Sarti 9:46 AM:
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Not sure if this is RFC worthy....is there any way to a "registry" of installed PS versions on a host. Give we can install PS6 pretty much anywhere, how could we discover where PS is installed on the filesystem (and potentially version)
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Darwin Sanoy 9:48 AM:
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Glenn: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/aaron_margosis/2015/06/30/lua-buglight-2-3-with-support-for-windows-8-1-and-windows-10/
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Sullivan, Trevor 9:48 AM:
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One thing I'd love some team / community help on ... writing native cmdlets for Mac OS X and Linux. Some examples of how to call native libraries would be awesome.
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Darwin Sanoy 9:49 AM:
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Glenn: dir 'C:\Program Files\powershell\*\powershell.exe' | %{ get-command $_.fullname}
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Glenn Sarti 9:49 AM:
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reworded: Not sure if this is RFC worthy....is there any way to a "register" an installed PS versions on a host. Given we can install PS6 pretty much anywhere, how could we discover where PS is installed on the filesystem (and potentially version)
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Glenn Sarti 9:49 AM:
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Does PS _have_ to be installed there is it just default?
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Devin 9:49 AM:
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Seems like having env variable aware .net targetting and stuff might be best in an IDE
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Devin 9:50 AM:
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but w/e
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Joel Bennett 9:50 AM:
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Can we talk about the plan for ACTUALLY supporting .Net Standard 2 for nuget packages?
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Darwin Sanoy 9:51 AM:
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I'd vote environment variable too because it would work multiplatform
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Keith Hill 9:55 AM:
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Dumb question - can't PS just use nuget.exe to resolve nuget dependencies?
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Keith Hill 9:55 AM:
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Hehe - that was me Joel. PSake required VSSetup on Windows but not needed on Linux/macOS.
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Devin 9:59 AM:
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So would this be a requires that can target OS?
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Devin 9:59 AM:
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and exclude OS
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Devin 9:59 AM:
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?
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Joel Bennett 9:59 AM:
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yes please ;-)
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Darwin Sanoy 10:00 AM:
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This conversation is being had in the Chocolatey community as well.
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Simon Wåhlin 10:00 AM:
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Sounds like something along the line of what Warren Frame is doing in PSDepend doesnt it?
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Jeff Dean 10:00 AM:
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Not really related to dependencies, but does Core already support Desired State Configuration declarative 'function' types?
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Darwin Sanoy 10:00 AM:
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Richer dependency and requirements declaration in .nuspec
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Keith Hill 10:02 AM:
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@Trevor - isn't that a .NET Core platform invoke call to a native shared lib?
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Keith Hill 10:02 AM:
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So sprinkle in some C# code with a pinvoke call.
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Sullivan, Trevor 10:02 AM:
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@Keith: Possibly, yeah. I just am not familiar with native libraries on non-Windows platforms.
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Keith Hill 10:02 AM:
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It's not that hard.
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Keith Hill 10:03 AM:
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Example:
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[DllImport("libc")]
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static extern int read(int handle, byte[] buf, int n);
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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL) 10:04 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/src/libpsl-native
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Keith Hill 10:04 AM:
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That's a C# sample but that could be Add-Type'd
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Keith Hill 10:04 AM:
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+1
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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL) 10:04 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/src/System.Management.Automation/CoreCLR/CorePsPlatform.cs
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Sullivan, Trevor 10:04 AM:
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@Keith: nice. I think the big things is needing docs for native libs.
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Keith Hill 10:05 AM:
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Yup.
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Glenn Sarti 10:05 AM:
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Joey: thanks for that. More thinking to do.
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Joel Bennett 10:06 AM:
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It will depend how much you break
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Glenn Sarti 10:06 AM:
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hahah...yeah right
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Joey Aiello 10:06 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/pull/97
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10:07 AM This message wasn't sent to Kexy Biscuit.
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/pull/97
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Devin 10:08 AM:
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Skip it :)
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Devin 10:08 AM:
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Ty
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Bobby Cannon 10:12 AM:
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I think that is the Core expectation? Correct?
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Keith Hill 10:12 AM:
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--self-contained. :-)
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Sullivan, Trevor 10:12 AM:
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Hopping off the call. Cheers for the help, guys!
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Darwin Sanoy 10:13 AM:
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powershell-core is on chocolatey - but does not show up due to being marked beta
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Darwin Sanoy 10:14 AM:
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If we can decide an environment variable pointer name for "current version of core" I can add it to the chocolatey package
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Darwin Sanoy 10:15 AM:
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This variable would be helpful for making powershell core the default CLI for openssh
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Bobby Cannon 10:17 AM:
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I haven't done any research on this but since you guys are talking about it. I create a custom application that is a PowerShell host / terminal. Would I want to host PowerShell 6 in process or find PowerShell in the environment and communicate with it via PowerShell Editor Services?
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Joel Bennett 10:18 AM:
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What they just told me is that right now the only way is to host PS6 and ship all of it with your host app.
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Jeff Dean 10:18 AM:
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correct
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Bobby Cannon 10:19 AM:
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ok, sounds good. Core is new, can I host 6 in .NET 4.6.2?
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Bobby Cannon 10:19 AM:
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new to me that is...
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Jeff Dean 10:19 AM:
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that leads to the question... will the LCM eventually support PS core 6?
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Jeff Dean 10:21 AM:
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ty
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Keith Hill 10:28 AM:
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Looking through gh/ps/docs and not finding a doc on creating a cross-platform binary module? Anyone have a link to such a doc? Or is the host-powershell.md the doc?
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Keith Hill 10:29 AM:
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k, just wondering when to start messing with this - after having been burned by net core 1.0 alphas :-)
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Keith Hill 10:29 AM:
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Does seem to be firming up. New msbuild rocks.
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Keith Hill 10:30 AM:
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Thanks!
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Nicholas M. Getchell 10:30 AM:
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Thanks
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Thomas Rayner 10:30 AM:
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Thanks guys!
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Glenn Sarti 10:30 AM:
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thanks all
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Darwin Sanoy 10:30 AM:
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Thanks for doing these calls!
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Jeremiah Strong 10:30 AM:
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Always enjoy hearing the latest; thx for doing this
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Joel Bennett 10:30 AM:
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Y’all rock :-)
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Simon Wåhlin 10:30 AM:
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Thanks alot!
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Joel Bennett 10:30 AM:
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lol
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Devin 10:30 AM:
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bai
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Darwin Sanoy 10:30 AM:
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bye
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Jonathan Medd 10:30 AM:
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Thanks

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* Mar 16, 2017 ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBiVxd7l2I))
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* Apr 20, 2017 ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFct1AxFOU))
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* [May 18, 2017](./20170518_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WXuFrVSKM))
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* [June 15, 2017](./20170615_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_Q_3cUxTQ))
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* [June 15, 2017](./20170615_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu_Q_3cUxTQ))
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* [July 20, 2017](./20170720_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF2L5ezX7AE))

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