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‎CommunityCall/20170518_ChatTranscript.txt

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Sean Wheeler 9:30 AM:
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yes
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Jay Carper 9:31 AM:
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yep
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Fabretti, Douglas 9:31 AM:
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yep
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Eugene Bekker 9:34 AM:
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(Sorry, trying to fix my audio :-))
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Trevor Sullivan 9:34 AM:
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Is the OMI / PSRP remoting component going to be "built-in" to PowerShell, or will it stay as a separate package?
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Trevor Sullivan 9:34 AM:
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Sorry can't unmute
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Trevor Sullivan 9:34 AM:
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In another meeting.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:34 AM:
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Just looking to see how easy it is to simplify deployment.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:34 AM:
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Yep anywhere, client server
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Trevor Sullivan 9:35 AM:
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WS-Man and SSH based
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Trevor Sullivan 9:35 AM:
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eg. WS-Man outbound to Windows Server
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Trevor Sullivan 9:35 AM:
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or SSH based to Linux or Mac
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Trevor Sullivan 9:36 AM:
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Is this exclusive to Core Edition? Or does it work across Desktop and Core?
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Trevor Sullivan 9:37 AM:
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I've heard remoting is working today, but haven't seen how to actually use it. Looks complex to set up at the moment.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:37 AM:
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Both
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Staffan Gustafsson 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Ben Gelens 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Joel Bennett 9:37 AM:
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+1 Critical
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Fabretti, Douglas 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Constantin Hager 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Eugene Bekker 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Iain Brighton 9:37 AM:
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+1
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Trevor Sullivan 9:37 AM:
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Only done Windows remoting in the past. Would like to learn how to actually do what David Wilson demo'd at PSSummit.
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Castillo, Joshua 9:38 AM:
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+10
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Joey Aiello 9:38 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/demos/SSHRemoting
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Trevor Sullivan 9:39 AM:
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Here's an example scenario: I would like to deploy a Docker-on-Linux microservice that remotely triggers jobs on Windows Server.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:39 AM:
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Thanks for the link. I'll have to try that out.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:40 AM:
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Doable today? WOW, awesome.
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Joey Aiello 9:40 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/blob/master/1-Draft/RFC0012-Enable-SSH-Remoting.md
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Trevor Sullivan 9:40 AM:
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I'll take a look at the RFC. Wasn't aware of it. Thanks!
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Trevor Sullivan 9:41 AM:
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So Linux --> Windows is NTLM?
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Trevor Sullivan 9:41 AM:
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Cool
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Joel Bennett 9:41 AM:
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It worries me that the "server" story is SSH Remoting, but that there's no plan on shipping the ssh remoting client end to Windows -- even after you ship OpenSSH in the box!!!?
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Joel Bennett 9:42 AM:
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One other thing -- I mentioned the other day in Slack that PowerShell 6 is not ever going to ship "in the box" and some of the knowledgeable geeks did not know that. I actually had one of our regulars call me out and ask me to cite sources ... which I had a *very* hard time doing. Can we make that clearer?
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Trevor Sullivan 9:42 AM:
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My earlier question around Desktop vs. Core Edition was more along the lines of ... can I do Windows --> Linux via Desktop Edition or do I have to use Core Edition for that? A text answer would suffice while you're responding to Joel.
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Joel Bennett 9:44 AM:
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Can we ship it as a store app? ;-)
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:44 AM:
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I have a chocolatey installer out there - but it does not show on public search due to the pre-release version being used.
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:44 AM:
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https://chocolatey.org/packages/powershell-core
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Eugene Bekker 9:44 AM:
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Is it is a side-by-side problem with WinPOSH?
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Castillo, Joshua 9:44 AM:
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msi :(
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:46 AM:
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If you use the .zip you can do side by side
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:46 AM:
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MSI is a four letter word ;)
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:47 AM:
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choco install powershell-core -y -pre
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Trevor Sullivan 9:48 AM:
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Thanks for distributing Docker containers. This is a perfect story for side-by-side versioning.
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Joel Bennett 9:48 AM:
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Well, if I can't remote to my Linux boxes because of missing SSH ... PowerShell 6 inside the store sandbox would be useful -- if it could do SSH :-P
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Trevor Sullivan 9:49 AM:
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Could you guys ship a PowerShell container with the OMI / PSRP pre-installed? I would like to debug PowerShell applications running in containers.
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Joel Bennett 9:49 AM:
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+1
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Joel Bennett 9:49 AM:
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Would use.
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Trevor Sullivan 9:50 AM:
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Not sure if SSH or WS-Man. I'm confused ... is WS-Man supported on Linux??
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Trevor Sullivan 9:50 AM:
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Oh, so SSH remoting is built-in?
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Castillo, Joshua 9:50 AM:
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+1 docker container/omi...
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Trevor Sullivan 9:50 AM:
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Huh ....
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Trevor Sullivan 9:50 AM:
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I opened an issue on OMI already
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Ben Gelens 9:50 AM:
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Client is build in. Server is not
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Trevor Sullivan 9:50 AM:
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Paul H. responded to me, but didn't have time to try his suggestion.
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:50 AM:
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Can I get volunteers to test the IOS installer in my pull request? I have no idea if it works :) (https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/3608)
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Trevor Sullivan 9:51 AM:
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What I'm trying to accomplish: debug PowerShell in containers. :)
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Trevor Sullivan 9:52 AM:
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I'd like to fire up a container, çreate a remote session to it, and then do the typical Enter-PSHostProcess debugging, or attach VSCode-PowerShell extension to it, so I can step through execution.
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Castillo, Joshua 9:52 AM:
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Not sure if the debugger is decuppled from vscode, but it needs some love
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Jonathan Medd 9:52 AM:
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+1 on a blog post / Github reference around the 6.0 core no plans for shipping out of the box and options for installing on Windows
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Castillo, Joshua 9:54 AM:
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Hit it right on the head
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Trevor Sullivan 9:54 AM:
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Thanks Joey. :) Don't care if SSH or WS-Man at this point.
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:56 AM:
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FYI - Latest vscode install wanted to end all my virus protection to install properly. Maybe it was the fault of Restart Manager + my specific machine state and nothing directly to do with the installer?
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Ben Gelens 9:56 AM:
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Dsc can be debugged interactive now. Works great for me
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Staffan Gustafsson 9:56 AM:
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I have quite a lot of crashes debugging with VS code to
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 9:57 AM:
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Since it's probably not a good idea to put PSH 6.0 on the path on a Windows machine - maybe a "PSH6PATH" environment variable (hey let's do JAVA_HOME all over again :D )
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Castillo, Joshua 9:57 AM:
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Great, thanks.
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Castillo, Joshua 9:58 AM:
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+1 on hosing vscode a few times
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Trevor Sullivan 9:58 AM:
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From Mac OS X, I'm trying to remote into a Windows Server instance, and I just get "MI_RESULT_ACCESS_DENIED," even when I specify -Credential. Anyone see this?
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Ashley McGlone (GOATEEPFE) 9:59 AM:
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Mac to Windows over SSH works OK for me
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Ashley McGlone (GOATEEPFE) 9:59 AM:
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My Windows target was Win10 with OpenSSH
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Trevor Sullivan 9:59 AM:
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Enter-PSSession -ComputerName FQDN -Credential (Get-Credential) <--- anything else?
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Ashley McGlone (GOATEEPFE) 10:00 AM:
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That would be Wsman, i've not tried that
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Ashley McGlone (GOATEEPFE) 10:00 AM:
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Enter-PSSession -Hostname FQDN -Username foo -SSHTransport
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Ben Gelens 10:01 AM:
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@trevor, should use authentication basic / nego when doing wsman psrp
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Trevor Sullivan 10:01 AM:
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The documentation says there&apos;s a -KeyFilePath parameter on New-PSSession, but that doesn&apos;t exist on my Beta 1 system.
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Trevor Sullivan 10:01 AM:
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Thanks @Ben
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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL) 10:02 AM:
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@trevor, -keyfilepath is part of the ssh parameter set: new-pssession -hostname foo -keyfilepath
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Trevor Sullivan 10:02 AM:
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NAME
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New-PSSession
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SYNOPSIS
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Creates a persistent connection to a local or remote computer.
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SYNTAX
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New-PSSession [[-ComputerName] <String[]>] [-ApplicationName <String>] [-Authentication {Default | Basic | Negotiate | NegotiateWithImplicitCredential | Credssp | Digest | Kerberos}] [-CertificateThumbprint <String>]
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[-ConfigurationName <String>] [-Credential <PSCredential>] [-EnableNetworkAccess] [-Name <String[]>] [-Port <Int32>] [-SessionOption <PSSessionOption>] [-ThrottleLimit <Int32>] [-UseSSL] [<CommonParameters>]
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New-PSSession [-ConnectionUri] <Uri[]> [-AllowRedirection] [-Authentication {Default | Basic | Negotiate | NegotiateWithImplicitCredential | Credssp | Digest | Kerberos}] [-CertificateThumbprint <String>] [-ConfigurationName
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<String>] [-Credential <PSCredential>] [-EnableNetworkAccess] [-Name <String[]>] [-SessionOption <PSSessionOption>] [-ThrottleLimit <Int32>] [<CommonParameters>]
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New-PSSession [[-Session] <PSSession[]>] [-EnableNetworkAccess] [-Name <String[]>] [-ThrottleLimit <Int32>] [<CommonParameters>]
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Trevor Sullivan 10:03 AM:
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https://gist.github.com/pcgeek86/ba57cda85f90cb5414542e48d8da62b3 <-- there&apos;s no -KeyFilePath parameter
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Trevor Sullivan 10:03 AM:
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I&apos;m running Beta 1
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Castillo, Joshua 10:04 AM:
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How about a cmdlet that runs through the system and PascalCases all files and environmentvariables
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Castillo, Joshua 10:04 AM:
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:)
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 10:04 AM:
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https://cloudywindows.com/post/straight-and-narrow-code-for-safe-windows-path-updates/
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:04 AM:
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Can we start pushing for using forward slashes on windows too?
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Trevor Sullivan 10:05 AM:
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Thanks Joey ... I&apos;ll try Basic authentication for WS-Man.
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Trevor Sullivan 10:07 AM:
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thx
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 10:07 AM:
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What folder is the environmentvariable cmdlets RFC under?
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Nicholas M. Getchell 10:08 AM:
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i've seen lots of people make the get-help syntax mistake. Any way to have the functionality of get-command -syntax in the Help?
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Trevor Sullivan 10:08 AM:
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Just tried -Authentication Basic to WS-Man, and got "Authentication Failed" :( Any ideas @BenGelens?
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Castillo, Joshua 10:09 AM:
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Its a joke :)
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Hemant Mahawar 10:09 AM:
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Environmentvariable cmdlets RFC is in PowerShell-RFC repo, specifically https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/pull/92
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Ben Gelens 10:09 AM:
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I have a demo on using keyfile on my psconfeu session on youtube
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Joey Aiello 10:10 AM:
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@Trevor: the server needs to be setup to accept Basic auth too... :\
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Castillo, Joshua 10:10 AM:
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Ben, do you you have a link to the youtube video?
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Trevor Sullivan 10:10 AM:
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Ah, good call. Can do that on my test server. Thanks! Didn&apos;t even think about that.
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Joey Aiello 10:11 AM:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50xLm7J_dsM
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Ben Gelens 10:11 AM:
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@Trevor, need to lower server side settings to allow unencrypt or add 5986 endpoint
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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL) 10:11 AM:
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if you're using basic auth, please use https
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Ashley McGlone (GOATEEPFE) 10:11 AM:
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Anyone having issues doing SSH remoting INTO a Mac?
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Trevor Sullivan 10:11 AM:
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No wonder remoting worked locally, because I was using Kerberos. :) $PSSenderInfo rocks.
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:12 AM:
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This works fine:
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[io.file]::ReadAllText(&apos;C:/Users/Staffan/.gitconfig&apos;)
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:12 AM:
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ah, so it&apos;s win32?
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:12 AM:
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I&apos;d like some comments on the developer environment.
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I think we could do a lot to make it a lot easier to getting started contributing to PowerShell if there were working solutions/projects for VSCode/Visual Studio.
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Joey Aiello 10:13 AM:
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi0yoOq-PnTAhVM0GMKHR4pCJ4QFggxMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fdotnet%2Fstandard&usg=AFQjCNEtPeKo4Oqe9Cl5NTXAwlgIebkGUA&sig2=e2fmBFKjfZ_O85Ds-2FNzA
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Joey Aiello 10:13 AM:
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https://github.com/dotnet/standard
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Trevor Sullivan 10:13 AM:
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Yay for .NET Standard 2.0! Looking forward to Active Directory support.
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Joey Aiello 10:13 AM:
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https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2016/09/26/introducing-net-standard/
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Eugene Bekker 10:14 AM:
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Woohoo!
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Trevor Sullivan 10:15 AM:
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Something I&apos;d be interested in hearing some feedback on ... will we see some increased focus on interop, to aid in building PowerShell modules targeting UNIX native libraries?
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Steve Lee (POWERSHELL) 10:16 AM:
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Linux coverage is something we're targeting for 6.1.0, but for 6.0.0 we certainly need a better sdk to allow authoring cross platform (and cross ps versions) modules
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Trevor Sullivan 10:17 AM:
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Thanks Steve, sounds good.
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Joey Aiello 10:17 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/3135
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 10:17 AM:
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@trevor - see the RFC I submitted a while back: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/blob/master/1-Draft/RFC0019-PowerShell-Core-Interop-Module.md
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:17 AM:
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Platform native module load by some naming convention? Like nuget?
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 10:20 AM:
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Also you can see my own interop code in these repos: https://github.com/DarwinJS/DebugDeepPSHExecution, https://github.com/DarwinJS/AWSSecurity
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Castillo, Joshua 10:22 AM:
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Does working with Swager have a place on the wish list?
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Castillo, Joshua 10:22 AM:
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Swagger
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Joey Aiello 10:24 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/3091
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Staffan Gustafsson 10:25 AM:
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"Versioning is not a problem" :)
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Castillo, Joshua 10:27 AM:
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I keep seeing Joel's name on your pages, it might be time to higher him
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Joey Aiello 10:27 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/projects/11
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Eugene Bekker 10:27 AM:
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For the RFCs - what does the "Experimental" stage mean? Does that mean there is an version of the feature implemented somewhere to play with?
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Castillo, Joshua 10:28 AM:
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yay
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Eugene Bekker 10:28 AM:
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DSL
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Eugene Bekker 10:28 AM:
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Yeah, that's the one I'm looking at
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Eugene Bekker 10:28 AM:
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Got it, thanks
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Hemant Mahawar 10:28 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/powershell-rfc/blob/master/RFC0000-RFC-Process.md describes the terms and workflow
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Joey Aiello 10:29 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/3169
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/blob/master/RFC0000-RFC-Process.md
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Joey Aiello 10:29 AM:
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https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell-RFC/blob/master/RFC0000-RFC-Process.md#draft
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Castillo, Joshua 10:31 AM:
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Can i bring my kids?
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Castillo, Joshua 10:31 AM:
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ShadowBeard
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Joey Aiello 10:31 AM:
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Thanks again everyone!
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Keith Hill 10:31 AM:
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Thx!
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Darwin Sanoy (Infor) 10:31 AM:
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Thanks guys for hosting these calls - very helpful
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Jeremiah Strong 10:32 AM:
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Thanks!
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GLOCK 10:33 AM:
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Thanks!

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* [Dec 8, 2016](./20161208_Notes.md) - The first community call! ([YouTube recording (audio only)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_i0He9jauY))
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* [Jan 26, 2017](./20170126_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording (partial)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7g5UbVFYqQ))
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* Mar 16, 2017 ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBiVxd7l2I))
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* Apr 20, 2017 ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFct1AxFOU))
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* Apr 20, 2017 ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFct1AxFOU))
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* [May 18, 2017](./20170518_ChatTranscript.txt) ([YouTube recording](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WXuFrVSKM)

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