Voxel Game Demo Version 4.5 .NET?

[WithinAmnesia]

Is there to be a Godot Version 4.5 .NET for Voxel Game Demo?

The is a lot of demand for 4.5 right now since Rex Engine and Redot are staying at Godot 4.5 and everything compatable with Godot 4.5 .NET can be side loaded with extensions to Redot Version 4.5 Long Term Support and in early 2026 Redot Version 1.0 (which is forked from Godot 4.5 .NET).

If there is no official support of Voxel Game Demo for Godot Version 4.5 .NET (with being paired Voxel Engine as a GDExtension for Godot Version 4.5.NET) it will not work properly and crash lots on Godot 4.5 versions and with Redot 4.5 LTS and Rex Version 1.0 (Rex is hard forked from Godot Version 4.5 .NET).

I can do 'fixes' but it would be better if proper coding developers did a proper Version 4.5 .NET for Voxel Game Demo. The proper code devs are like master carpenters who can make beautiful hand crafted furniture. I can make IKEA furniture and plywood and 2x4" furniture with screws nails and glue. It is functional but it lacks in experience compared to the master crafts people or in this case the master coders and updating the code base for two engines and an Long Term Support Version for Version 4.5 .NET. Please feel free to ask questions and give feedback. Best of luck and take care.

Post Script: I asked Redot / Rex devs Rex Engine at public launch will be named Version 0.1 and the Redot Long Term Support version will be called internally Version 26.1. Both Rex Engine version 0.1 (targeting early 2026 public launch) and Redot LTS (starting at Version 26.1) are both based from Godot Version 4.5 .NET.

[Zylann]

There is no C# version of this demo and I don't plan doing so, it's a lot of effort converting and maintaining all GDScript to C#. I also don't provide prebuilt C# versions of Godot because it's a hassle to distribute, but you can do a build yourself: https://voxel-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_the_module/#c-support.
As for the GDExtension version, C# support has been my main concern for years, but to this day, it remains "unsupported" by Godot: https://voxel-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_the_module/#gdextension-and-c

[WithinAmnesia]

Okay fair enough. Is there a plan for Voxel Game Demo that is working with Godot Version 4.5?

https://github.com/Zylann/voxelgame/blob/master/project/project.godot
config/features=PackedStringArray("4.4")

Can Voxel Game Demo be bumped up and polished a bit for Godot Version 4.5? Is there much to do or is it a bit of work here and there? Even a GDscript version in proper 4.5 can do a lot of good. I'd feel better doing a big C# conversion knowing its the best possible GDscript from the start to start the big side loading to Rex and expanding with the smooth + cubic voxel creative community people. I feel a bit ify on this demo for its 4.4 and it should be 4.5 and I can do it but I feel that it probably wiser to get the proper people who know this code base inside and out to do the better 4.5 version over my less than masterful version I sorta don't feel super amazing thinking about heading into a difficult upgrade and re-engining.

I should have asked about a base GDscript version too in the original post. I've been kinda overworked and missed that point sorry. It's a lot of work to make public demo / templates for it has to be good quality to share and I worry about my less than amazing work being used to support a whole bunch of other upgrades. I'd feel better knowing that @Zylann or someone who deeply loves this Voxel engine and code base did the last bits on 4.5. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit sentimental or emotional but I like to keep memories if I can and empower people and it feels better getting the proper people to do the last big cross engine patch; like a proper send off before a big adventure.

If we get a 4.5 version I can better complete my bit by bit C# conversion I started on late last year or early this year (its getting there then I found out about the Cubic voxel + Smooth voxel composite hybrid voxel system and also getting ready for the 10th console generation for late 2027).

[Zylann]

Is there a plan for Voxel Game Demo that is working with Godot Version 4.5?

It should already work with that version. The repo doesn't have to be forced onto that version IMO (that can make older versions potentially unable to open it anymore). When Godot tells you the project is for an older version, open it anyways and it should open just fine.

[WithinAmnesia]

There is no C# version of this demo and I don't plan doing so, it's a lot of effort converting and maintaining all GDScript to C#. I also don't provide prebuilt C# versions of Godot because it's a hassle to distribute, but you can do a build yourself: https://voxel-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_the_module/#c-support. As for the GDExtension version, C# support has been my main concern for years, but to this day, it remains "unsupported" by Godot: https://voxel-tools.readthedocs.io/en/latest/getting_the_module/#gdextension-and-c

The last part of the Godot not listening / being unsupportive I skimmed over and mind blanked sorry, I'll do a post here to better respond.

Okay so Redot got made a thing due to the creative community for various reasons wanting a better more reflective / just to make games with engine. I at the start was not the most happy at the creative community split but it sorta worked out and it sorta help each other now like constructive rivals. Rex Engine was made out of a deep love of game engine dev and wanting a 'Godot 5.0' that look like is either deeply delayed or not coming in the next 4-5 years (I advocated for a Godot 5 for years now). Rex devs are a lot more about to get in contact with and to my experience have a genuine love of the other engine devs and listen and are more open (they are a smaller community too so thats a thing). Its like Godot is Germany and Rex / Redot is Switzerland as like Germany makes good stuff for everyone and Switzerland takes that good stuff and makes it better and does its own thing and focused on highest possibly quality engineering.

Also Godot foundation has myself very very worried about a pump and dump / pension fund milk cow for the copyright holders who I have not seen in the creative community trenches in years. I am not listened to for asking where is the 2024 and 2024 finical report on Godot's really ify 'foundation' which is based in the netherlands and is very... if you wanted to have a shady foundation thats where you make them and it has the same legal frame work that other shady 'foundations; have. Redot / Rex foundation is based in USA and has stricter transparency laws which is much better than the netherland shady willy nilly foundation laws.

I say this after having my creative community friends be wiped out from large pump and dump corporate sellout schemes.

I am at this point an old guard game dev and I'm pretty much Elrond in Lord of the Rings looking after creative community and trying to get the corporate enshitification system 'ring' destroyed for it wrecked all the good things I directly remember working on in the golden age of video game development and I want to win back the day and strike a blow that cannot be undone with forever free MIT CC0 creative game making tools to empower the world. As it always should have been from the start.

I am Elrond, Blizzard is the guy Isildur who says 'no I want shiny for meeeeeeeeee sells out to activision / Morgoth / Mordor / The Bad Guys' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4xV2RIlMi4
I don't want the memories of the wonders I lived through to die with me; they must be given to all of humanity to be forever free. I struggle against extinction of the greatness that is the birthright of every human being born, dead and alive and yet to live for this generation and all who are to be born forever after. I was at Atlantis before it fell and its not a theory or a story I lived it, I saw it I remember my friends being so betrayed they never returned and some died in obscurity. I don't get to quit there is much work to be done to win back what is rightfully for all of humanity; the power of creativity belongs not to the few gatekeepers bit all of humanity forever free.

I am Gandalf banishing the corruption out of the grandest game ever game with World of Warcraft and the private servers here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBXilomkPk I helped found and empower Turtle WoW and pioneered the tools and gave the golden goose to make new content, new instances new raids to the east from the west. Gaming belongs to the people as it always has been and will be so long as we fight for your right to live forever free. If humanity can dream forever free then shall humanity live forever free.

I am King Theoden riding with the people once more and my place is with the people fighting in the trenches and not atop some ivory tower. I come from an ancient line of kings and rulers from Europe and the chiefs of the Red River in Canada who made the rights, fought and died and created western Canada. There is a lot of work to do and as I type with with a fever and broken hand, injured back, legs feet and head I only wish for more ability and more strength to do more work to empower the people. Robert the Bruce King of Scotland united the clans and was crowned King of the realms and won back the restoration of Scottish Throne in his time. Robert the Bruce King of Scotland is my direct Ancestor and the blood of my blood of the Kings of Scotland and of ancient Europe before written records that survive runs through my veins. I am born of the Forbes clan of Scotland and through my ancestors the last War Kings of the western world took to battle and fought with their people and shed their blood together and died in battle to free their people side by side forever free.

I am Aragorn for we must reforge what was broken and wield it for the sake of all human being alive and dead and to win back the Rule of the Free Peoples of this earth today and for forever evermore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsbDigj7w5c
I remember the fallen and I swore my oaths to battle and live and remember where they could not. It cost myself everything in my life to be forever free and keep my dignity and give everything to the people. Many have fallen few remember what once was and must be once again. Microsoft has conquered Blizzard and others and holds the chains that bind Minecraft born of a realm of which I too have royal Swedish and Scandinavian blood in my veins. So today I work to strike a blow that cannot be undone and to free the world of the tyranny that kills dreams and holds back the will of the share experience we all belong to in our shared human spirit. We were born to be free but we must fight to keep our rights and today we must fight to keep the tools of creation of our culture, our legacy in these dark uncertain time heading in world wars which threaten the continued existence of western culture that has gone on in strength for over 11,000 years and older than the stones that fail to record their memory and legacy given to us by their strength. Our ancestors did not fight and die for us to live as conquered peoples in our own lands. We are born of greatness but me bust first kill our weakness to birth our greatness. Strike a blow to the largest game franchise MIT forever free and once the code is made and its MIT it de facto is owned by the entire world and with copy and paste down crumble the walls of the tyrants atop their enshitification gatekeeping ivory towers.

I am Samwise the Strong! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhY59n7X-Y This is a time to be alive and to be mighty of old and win the day back from the darkness and rally the people to a banner worth fighting and dying for, to be forever free today, tomorrow and every fate there after evermore. Humanity forever free! I ask as Sampson in the holy texts to not ask for the burden to be lessened only to have the power to break what is broken in our failing civilization and the strength to reforge our world anew as it always should be for all of humanity to live forever free. If humanity can dream forever free then shall humanity live forever free!

I am King Buliwyf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYQn9jfZjJM This is a time to remember who we are and fight for what we believe, healthy, ill weak or with broken bones we must fight the good fight and win the day all the same. I great leader sees the legend in people and can anyone believe in themselves and become legendary. A great leader see the power in everyone and gives the people a just way of life to bring that power in the people to all of the realm. To live as one culture and win the day for all. If we fall so to does our way of life and forever 1 warrior there are 100's who need our strength for if we fail their line ends with us. If we win God willing we are worthy then with us the whole world is made anew and humanity no longer has to live in chains and dreams of the past and wonders of our civilization can live again. The true treasure of humanity is humanity itself. Hail our ancestors and those who gave us the torch of humanity to live forever free and hold high and be the fire in the darkness to guide humanity out of these dark times and into the life worth living of the birthright we are all born to live forever free; the human spirit we all share in this shared existence together as one living forever free.

We are all people at the end of the day. We live together we die together. We are an unbroken chain stretching from the dawn of time of people who didn't quite know why they were here and had children strong enough to have children of their own. Every human being was at the top of the tree of humanity and leading branch even for the smallest of moments we were all at one time the first hope of the fire humanity that burns in the depths of human souls; the fire of god or the fire of the human spirit. There are many failed branches of humanity that died but we are of the living branch together as one alive in our shared existence and we are we can make things better always. Things can always get better. We must fight and keep fighting. The world being forever free is worth our sacrifices. We have a long history of being free and fighting for our right to live forever free. We have been fighting to be free in western civilization for thousands of years since the time of true War Kings as Alexander the Great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlKJDwViNKs

I will share the Man in the Arena by one of the last War Leaders of our time who lead from the front and fought side by side with their people to win the day. Theodore Roosevelt: https://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=991271&module_id=339364
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt at Sorbonne, Paris, France April 23, 1910.

[Zylann]

I'm sorry this is too much text. Then completely off-topic.

[WithinAmnesia]

I had a thing and had to write it.

Its about like 4.5 Godot Voxel Game Demo would be good because it helps lots of people. I thought of why and then and then I saw this like epic in my mind and had to write it on the spot like remember a dream waking up.

Its just how I operate, some people are born to run I am born to create and write I suppose. Anyway its like Dwarf Fortress when the crafts people get like an inspiration then make a masterwork something lol. Literally catching an inspiration before I forget again.

Any plans on a 4.5 GDscript version of Voxel Game Demo? I can help if needed also but it seems more of a coding touch to bump it up a version to 4.5.

[Zylann]

Any plans on a 4.5 GDscript version of Voxel Game Demo?

"No": #120 (comment)

[WithinAmnesia]

How come though, it'd be really useful for lots of people its for a LTS version too? You'd be the best person to make on for 4.5 too? Life change or something happen; what should be done to help?

[WithinAmnesia]

Is there a plan for Voxel Game Demo that is working with Godot Version 4.5?

It should already work with that version. The repo doesn't have to be forced onto that version IMO (that can make older versions potentially unable to open it anymore). When Godot tells you the project is for an older version, open it anyways and it should open just fine.

Oh okay so it works with 4.5 Already? So its just a matter of changing the minimum version number then? Can you make a 4.5 version for a symbolic send off? You are the master here too.

[WithinAmnesia]

https://github.com/Zylann/voxelgame/branches/all Perhaps a 4.5 branch so the 4.4 version works too?
Maybe a 4.5 LTS branch makes sense for the main branch can follow Godot to into 4.7+?

[Zylann]

More recent Godot versions can open older projects, but the opposite might not be true. So I tend to let versions as is, and only bump if necessary. I also don't want to make branches for that.

[WithinAmnesia]

Okay so the plan is:
4.4 Voxel Demo effectively works with 4.5 (De facto Voxel Game Demo 4.5 is version 4.4 with a slight version number patch)
With Redot 4.5 LTS its is Godot Voxel 4.5 GDExtension with Voxel Game Demo 4.4/4.5 sideloaded.
With Rex it is the Redot 4.5 LTS with the sided loaded Voxel Game Demo and Godot Voxel Engine extensions side loaded for 4.4/4.5?

Godot Voxel Demo is to be updated on the main branch up to Godot 4.7+ and perhaps Godot 5.0+ in the late 2020's and early 2030's?

For all 4.5 version of Voxel Game Demo it is the 4.4 branch (or 4.5 version if that comes out later or pre-4.6+ versions found on the Github version history of the main branch)?

How long do you foresee making demos and supporting the MIT Voxel projects? Also is there work on hybrid smooth voxels + cubic voxels for demos / templates like Voxel Game Demo on the horizon (up to 2027-2029)?