Why the sample uses both Ardalis.SharedKernel & NimblePros.SharedKernel ?

[sdudnic-ingerop]

Why the sample uses both Ardalis.SharedKernel & NimblePros.SharedKernel ?

And what to do with NimblePros.Metronome in real project, should we create Contoso.Metronome?

The template started to became hard to acquire... from a sample project it started to be a extra-complexified "sample", even a project name is defined as public partial struct ProjectName...

Who in real live will use that complexity for a ToDo Sample ?

[ardalis]

The sample probably should have Ardalis.SharedKernel removed. Good call.

Metronome is a separate package that I find useful to communicate the costs of external calls to DB or other services, so I include it by default. Don't want it? Take it out.

The sample includes a bunch of stuff in it now that demonstrates the use of value objects using Vogen. I've found these to be valuable and am using them more and more with my (and my clients') apps. They'll probably appear more in the main template, too. Don't want to use value objects? Don't.

If this template is more complex, has too many dependencies, has too many projects, smells bad, violates your personal ethos, or otherwise doesn't work for you, please don't use it. You're quite welcome to fork it, modify to suit your needs and whims, and keep whatever you find useful and discard the rest. Or don't use it at all. I'm sure I will miss all of the sales revenue I would otherwise have gotten from you... oh wait, it's all free. Never mind. :)

[sdudnic-ingerop]

I thought the idea of the sample (from the word "sample") is to be a skeleton of what a good application can be, where "NimblePros" is the company name (aka Contoso), and can be replaced anytime with an abstract company name, and should be sample to do it. Actually, I see NimblePros a real site and "company" that have multiple projects in GitHub, SharedKernel, Metronome, also messed with "Ardalis", so it harder to "take it out", as it started to be more and more spaghetti. I do like CleanArchitecture from Ardalis you do, we started some projects taking the example of your project, but after several years when we try to update the kernel, is became harder, in a way...

As for "free", as I understand, some components used in the project will became paid. AutoMapper, previously governed by the MIT license and part of the .NET Foundation, is now moving towards a paid model for commercial use. Similarly, MediatR, which was under the Apache 2.0 license, is also adopting a commercial licensing approach.

However, it's not such for criticize, rather to discuss things. :) Thank you for prompt answer by the way! Waiting for cleaning SharedKernel :)

[ardalis]

Yep, I understand. It's hard to keep things up-to-date and to please everyone (heck, it's hard even to please future me, most of the time, as fast as things change). I do try to keep this repo up-to-date and I'm not (yet) concerned about MediatR or AutoMapper becoming commercial in the future. Assuming the price is reasonable there's no reason folks might not want to pay for them, and of course if they don't I'm sure alternatives will be available, too.

NimblePros is my company, and yes it is commercial and yes it also has repos and NuGet packages and such. For the sample you can think of it as essentially "Contoso" but the sample isn't meant to be a template. It's meant purely for instructional purposes. The published template is the template. I know it's a narrow difference but that's the intent.

Cheers!