Most common 'fixed' strategies / what non light devices do people manually configure most often? #964

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-07T10:48:50Z

CloCkWeRX
Aug 7, 2022

Following on from: #639

In theory, the model.json would support a number of other measurements or figures for auto detection, across a lot of different domains.

Useful additions to have work 'out of the box':

Standby power of common smart plugs
Standby power of common smart speakers (various google home, google mini, alexa, etc models); plus other media player details (noisy to measure!)
Power profile of security cameras/etc

Others categories that could be useful, things that are "always on":

Generic sensors for large appliances (High efficiency fridge, low efficiency X)
Generic sensors that look up other repositories -

Australia/New Zealand have https://reg.energyrating.gov.au/comparator/product_types/ for example (CC 3.0 licenced, csv avail)
Europe has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_energy_label + https://ec.europa.eu/info/energy-climate-change-environment/standards-tools-and-labels/products-labelling-rules-and-requirements/energy-label-and-ecodesign/product-database_en (API avail, csv planned)
US has https://www.energy.gov/energysaver/shopping-appliances - https://www.energystar.gov/productfinder/

What kinds of things are people most commonly using the Fixed strategies for?

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-07T11:00:32Z

CloCkWeRX
Aug 7, 2022
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Jotting down so I dont forget:

routers
a power profile of an rpi 1-4+ variants?

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Standby power of common smart speakers (various google home, google mini, alexa, etc models); plus other media player details (noisy to measure!)

Most of these smart speakers have a fairly fixed power consumption afaik, and are a perfect candidate to put in the library as a lot of people own them. I will do some testing on my google nest/home mini's. To see if the power consumption is constant and what happens when I play music of ask some questions.

Power profile of security cameras/etc

These have also a fixed power usage which would be a perfect candidate for a profile.

Others categories that could be useful, things that are "always on":

Generic sensors for large appliances (High efficiency fridge, low efficiency X)

These devices are difficult and also depend on weather conditions. Also daily fixed would be a better fit for these as power consumption is spikey. i.e. it is consuming ~0 watt for a few minutes and than ~1200 watt for a few minutes. daily fixed is not a possible option for the library yet, but this may be added.

CloCkWeRX Sep 18, 2022
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These devices are difficult and also depend on weather conditions.

Having now gone through, I think there are a few categories that appear; at least from Australian standards.

Daily fixed, which is based on a 365, always "on" behaviour like a fridge.
Per use fixed, which is assumed to happen once a day. IE: Dishwasher or Washing machine is measured for 365 "uses". I think this kind of thing warrants its own device type, like "per_use_appliance"; and these typically feature a notion of standby power. Short of pulling the plug out, once you've set a mode + hit a button, you have committed to about that much usage. Modes seem important for washing machines (cold vs hot wash)
On / off devices, like computer monitors, lights, set top boxes, TVs, media players, etc. The latter have a varied profile based on states like volume.

https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/homeassistant-powercalc/tree/feature/fixed-statutory is the current WIP.

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-08T12:44:46Z

CloCkWeRX
Aug 8, 2022
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@bramstroker - what do you think of modelling the common Raspberry Pi setups; with a linear config for CPU usage?

As an experiment, I transcribed:
http://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption

into:
CloCkWeRX@a6f94f9

That's not valid model.json (what platform is...well.. the underlying platform itself!), and at least on my install, the rpi itself isn't exposed as a device by default - but home assistant DOES know what it is:

I did this as mostly a thought experiment for "cpu usage = linear power consumption".

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/systemmonitor/ does exist; so in theory could be used to read this.
Unclear if https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-get-current-cpu-and-ram-usage-in-python/#:~:text=Method%201%3A%20Using%20psutil,to%20provide%20a%20time%20interval. could be used as well.

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CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-08T13:56:34Z

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Aug 8, 2022
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Experiment 2: What would it look like to generate models from regulators?

I wrote a quick and dirty "go get a CSV and output a model.json like structure" script:
https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/homeassistant-powercalc/tree/model/aus-fixed/utils/generate-australian-generic-models

Example output:

{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 21066', 'aliases': ['21066'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 70.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting GLS', 'aliases': ['GLS'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 70.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 21069', 'aliases': ['21069'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 21070', 'aliases': ['21070'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting GLS', 'aliases': ['GLS'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'PHILIPS Essential Plus LV MR16 35W GU5.3 12V 60D', 'aliases': ['Essential Plus LV MR16 35W GU5.3 12V 60D'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'PHILIPS Essential Plus LV MR16 35W GU5.3 12V 36D', 'aliases': ['Essential Plus LV MR16 35W GU5.3 12V 36D'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania 0021699', 'aliases': ['0021699'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania 0021701', 'aliases': ['0021701'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania MR16 SUPERIA ECOPLUS 35W', 'aliases': ['MR16 SUPERIA ECOPLUS 35W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania 0021697', 'aliases': ['0021697'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 20.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania 0021698', 'aliases': ['0021698'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 20.0}}
{'name': 'Sylvania MR16 SUPERIA ECOPLUS 20W', 'aliases': ['MR16 SUPERIA ECOPLUS 20W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 20.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19102', 'aliases': ['19102'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19104', 'aliases': ['19104'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19107', 'aliases': ['19107'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19108', 'aliases': ['19108'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting Officework', 'aliases': ['Officework'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 42.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA MR16 35W 60D', 'aliases': ['MR16 35W 60D'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'GE G20857', 'aliases': ['G20857'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 18.0}}
{'name': 'GE G20860', 'aliases': ['G20860'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA G4 12V 14W', 'aliases': ['G4 12V 14W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 14.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA G4 12V 7W', 'aliases': ['G4 12V 7W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 7.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA GY6.35 12V 35W', 'aliases': ['GY6.35 12V 35W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA GY6.35 12V 28W', 'aliases': ['GY6.35 12V 28W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 28.0}}
{'name': 'GE G20859', 'aliases': ['G20859'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'GE G77905', 'aliases': ['G77905'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'GE G77901', 'aliases': ['G77901'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 20.0}}
{'name': 'GE G79233', 'aliases': ['G79233'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19120', 'aliases': ['19120'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 28.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19123', 'aliases': ['19123'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 28.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting 19124', 'aliases': ['19124'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 28.0}}
{'name': 'Brilliant Lighting c35', 'aliases': ['c35'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 28.0}}
{'name': 'LUCE BELLA I003404', 'aliases': ['I003404'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA HDICMI43560GC', 'aliases': ['HDICMI43560GC'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.2}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA MR16 12V 16W', 'aliases': ['MR16 12V 16W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 16.0}}
{'name': 'Olsent MR16 35W', 'aliases': ['MR16 35W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 35.0}}
{'name': 'MIRABELLA MR11 12V 16W', 'aliases': ['MR11 12V 16W'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS 4934.1:2014', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'light', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 16.0}}

This seems broadly useful as:

It's measured to a specific engineering standard by a government body
It's got a brand name + model ID which is heavily standardised
It (in theory) covers all devices sold legally in a certain area

These devices will never be auto detected; but it seems like we could generate a few thousand models and commit them; so a lamp paired with a smart switch = measurable.
Given there are large categories where this is possible - lights, fridges, aircons - it seems like we could generate a pretty comprehensive list of what is "current".

The drawback would be model-spam. If you aren't in australia, do you care about an OSRAM XYZ that doesn't fit in power sockets?

Example fridges/freezers:

{'name': 'Living & Co HD-325FWEN', 'aliases': ['HD-325FWEN'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 9.164129883307967e-06}}
{'name': 'Omega OBMF266FI', 'aliases': ['OBMF266FI'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 9.60806697108067e-06}}
{'name': 'HITACHI R-S800PT0', 'aliases': ['R-S800PT0'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.5220700152207e-05}}
{'name': 'HITACHI R-S800PT0GBK', 'aliases': ['R-S800PT0GBK'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.5220700152207e-05}}
{'name': 'HITACHI R-S800PT0GS', 'aliases': ['R-S800PT0GS'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.5220700152207e-05}}
{'name': 'HITACHI R-S800PT0 Series', 'aliases': ['R-S800PT0 Series'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.5220700152207e-05}}
{'name': 'Ilve ILREF482FD', 'aliases': ['ILREF482FD'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.7598934550989347e-05}}
{'name': 'Ilve ILREF482FD**', 'aliases': ['ILREF482FD**'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.7598934550989347e-05}}
{'name': 'Ilve ILREF482FDBV', 'aliases': ['ILREF482FDBV'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.7598934550989347e-05}}
{'name': 'Artusi AFDF620X', 'aliases': ['AFDF620X'], 'measure_description': 'IEC  62552-3:2015', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.4903602232369357e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516*', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516*'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516A', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516A'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516B', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516B'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516C', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516C'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516D', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516D'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516E', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516E'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}
{'name': 'Kogan KAMSBSF516F', 'aliases': ['KAMSBSF516F'], 'measure_description': 'AS/NZS  IEC  62552.3:2018', 'measure': 'manual', 'device_type': 'appliance', 'supported_modes': ['fixed'], 'fixed_config': {'watt': 1.541095890410959e-05}}

(on the basis that x kWh/year = 365 days of usage, 1 kWh = 1000 Wh = 1000/60*60; 1w = 1 second). My math may be both whacky and wrong here.

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https://github.com/CloCkWeRX/homeassistant-powercalc/tree/feature/fixed-statutory updated branch

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-09T10:45:09Z

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Aug 9, 2022
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My google home (https://www.ebay.com.au/p/242661564) is coming in at 2-2.4w standby:

And looks like just under 4w, playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxHctJZflh8 at max volume for about a minute.

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TODO: I need to measure this as a greater range of volumes.

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-23T23:09:16Z

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Aug 23, 2022
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Note to self:
Lenovo Smart Clock with Google Assistant, clock mode

Todo: media player measurements

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Smart clock, increments in volume by 10%, 1 min interval, radio (dance music/rhythmic).

CloCkWeRX · 2022-08-28T02:12:09Z

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Aug 28, 2022
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Various alexa devices:
https://www.esource.com/es-blog-2-17-17-voice-control/ok-google-how-much-energy-does-alexa-consume

Google home mini (1st gen) with Kill-a-watt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULitn-uYYuY

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#1047

CloCkWeRX · 2023-01-03T00:18:51Z

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Jan 3, 2023
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I think the 'smart speakers' parts of this can be considered well and truely supported.

I'm keen to have another go at daily measurements for fixed appliances, generated from measurement/standards bodies, but it feels like it should be maybe a non core dataset/extra HACS plugin, as they would be approximatio s - most people are likely to buy a smart plug if they are sufficiently keen to measure these.

@bramstroker reckon there is a simple/reliable way to present additional data sets? Not sure if components are sandboxed from one another, or if a separate plugin could just emit a 'powercalc.dataset.registered' event with a path/bunch of data.

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@CloCkWeRX I envision in the future to have some kind of data repository mechanism where data could be downloaded from. Powercalc would provide a core repository, and then can be extended with other repositories somehow. But this is a major development and has a lot of challenges. Definitely cool to build though, so might be I have a shot at this somewhere this year.

You suggestion to have additional HACS download and a way to register this data directory is easy to implement and would be a nice first step.
Would be easier to let powercalc emit an event powercalc.dataset.load_directories event, and let your component listen to that and supply additional directory in the event object. That can be implemented here where all the possible data directories are loaded. https://github.com/bramstroker/homeassistant-powercalc/blob/master/custom_components/powercalc/power_profile/library.py#L23. This logic needs to be moved out of the constructor though to not cause any side effects when instantiating the ProfileLibrary class.
Do you want to do that development?

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Ah nice, that looks pretty straight forward. I'll give it a go tonight/through the week.

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