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# Removing `wheel` and `setuptools` as Dependencies for `pip`
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-Starting with Python 3.13, `pip` on Python 3.13 will no longer have `setuptools` and `wheel` as dependencies
+Starting with Python 3.13, `pip` will no longer have `setuptools` and `wheel` as dependencies
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by default. While this default made sense at the time `conda-forge` was started (over 8 years ago!),
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with the advent of Python packaging build backends (e.g., `flit`, `poetry`, `hatchling`, etc.),
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this default is no longer correct. Instead, you will need to specify `wheel` and/or `setuptools` explicitly in the `host`
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