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Add meeting notes 2024-10-16
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tags: [meeting-notes]
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title: '2024-10-16'
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# conda-forge core meeting 2024-10-16
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Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading
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- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
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- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
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- [Previous meetings](https://conda-forge.org/community/minutes/)
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## Attendees
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| Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation |
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| ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- |
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| Matthew R Becker | MRB | beckermr | conda-forge |
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| Daniel Ching | DJC | carterbox | NVIDIA/cf |
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| Isuru Fernando | IF | isuruf | Quansight/cf |
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| Klaus Zimmermann | KZ | zklaus | Quansight |
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| Bianca Henderson | BH | beeankha | Anaconda |
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| John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf |
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| Dasha Gurova | DG | dashagurova | Anaconda/conda |
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10 people total
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### Standing items
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### From previous meeting(s)
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### Active votes
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- [x] (MRB) three CFEPs
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/56
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/55
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/54
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### Your __new__() agenda items
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- [x] (IF) Installing latest sysroot compatible with the user's system
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/linux-sysroot-feedstock/pull/75
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- If you export an environment using a lockfile and reproduce you might get an incompatible sysroot.
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- MRB: Is there a shim we can use to use the system bits with our compilers? Is this PR providing that solution or a different one?
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- IF: It's a slightly different problem. With this PR, users will get the most recent sysroot available for their system (instead of the pinned/oldest one). Currently, 2.28 in conda-forge.
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- MRB: Are both solutions compatible?
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- IF: They are compatible. Using the system sysroot should be explicitly opt-in (only if "they know what they are doing"). We shouldn't encourage it and instead prefer the "latest compatible one" provided by conda-forge.
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- IF: The lockfile incompatibility problem is trying to install it in an older GLIBC system. The lockfile should include the `__glibc` virtual package in these cases.
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- JRG: Capture this in an issue in conda/conda and maybe a CEP.
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- [x] (JRG) Improvements in CI provisioning times in Windows / macOS:
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- Windows-only: move base install to D:
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- Both: use micromamba by default
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- Linux: still using Docker images... how to approach this? new series of Docker images with suffixed names so they don't use `Miniforge` installs? We can keep the same pinning entries, but not sure how hacky this feels.
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- IF: Add micromamba to the Docker images. The added size is negligible, and just use micromamba instead of Miniforge to provision the base environment. Make sure to use the same cache.
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### Pushed to next meeting
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### CFEPs
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