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| 1 | +--- |
| 2 | +tags: [meeting-notes] |
| 3 | +title: '2024-10-16' |
| 4 | +--- |
| 5 | +# conda-forge core meeting 2024-10-16 |
| 6 | + |
| 7 | +Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading |
| 8 | + |
| 9 | +- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) |
| 10 | +- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm) |
| 11 | +- [Previous meetings](https://conda-forge.org/community/minutes/) |
| 12 | + |
| 13 | +## Attendees |
| 14 | + |
| 15 | +| Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation | |
| 16 | +| ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- | |
| 17 | +| Matthew R Becker | MRB | beckermr | conda-forge | |
| 18 | +| Daniel Ching | DJC | carterbox | NVIDIA/cf | |
| 19 | +| Isuru Fernando | IF | isuruf | Quansight/cf | |
| 20 | +| Klaus Zimmermann | KZ | zklaus | Quansight | |
| 21 | +| Bianca Henderson | BH | beeankha | Anaconda | |
| 22 | +| John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf | |
| 23 | +| Dasha Gurova | DG | dashagurova | Anaconda/conda | |
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| 26 | + |
| 27 | +10 people total |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +### Standing items |
| 30 | + |
| 31 | +- [ ] |
| 32 | + |
| 33 | +### From previous meeting(s) |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +- [ ] |
| 36 | + |
| 37 | +### Active votes |
| 38 | + |
| 39 | +- [x] (MRB) three CFEPs |
| 40 | + - https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/56 |
| 41 | + - https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/55 |
| 42 | + - https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/54 |
| 43 | + |
| 44 | + |
| 45 | +### Your __new__() agenda items |
| 46 | + |
| 47 | +- [x] (IF) Installing latest sysroot compatible with the user's system |
| 48 | + - https://github.com/conda-forge/linux-sysroot-feedstock/pull/75 |
| 49 | + - If you export an environment using a lockfile and reproduce you might get an incompatible sysroot. |
| 50 | + - MRB: Is there a shim we can use to use the system bits with our compilers? Is this PR providing that solution or a different one? |
| 51 | + - IF: It's a slightly different problem. With this PR, users will get the most recent sysroot available for their system (instead of the pinned/oldest one). Currently, 2.28 in conda-forge. |
| 52 | + - MRB: Are both solutions compatible? |
| 53 | + - IF: They are compatible. Using the system sysroot should be explicitly opt-in (only if "they know what they are doing"). We shouldn't encourage it and instead prefer the "latest compatible one" provided by conda-forge. |
| 54 | + - IF: The lockfile incompatibility problem is trying to install it in an older GLIBC system. The lockfile should include the `__glibc` virtual package in these cases. |
| 55 | + - JRG: Capture this in an issue in conda/conda and maybe a CEP. |
| 56 | +- [x] (JRG) Improvements in CI provisioning times in Windows / macOS: |
| 57 | + - Windows-only: move base install to D: |
| 58 | + - Both: use micromamba by default |
| 59 | + - Linux: still using Docker images... how to approach this? new series of Docker images with suffixed names so they don't use `Miniforge` installs? We can keep the same pinning entries, but not sure how hacky this feels. |
| 60 | + - IF: Add micromamba to the Docker images. The added size is negligible, and just use micromamba instead of Miniforge to provision the base environment. Make sure to use the same cache. |
| 61 | + |
| 62 | +### Pushed to next meeting |
| 63 | + |
| 64 | +- [ ] |
| 65 | + |
| 66 | +### CFEPs |
| 67 | + |
| 68 | +- [ ] |
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