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# 2021-09-08 conda-forge core meeting
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****
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[last weeks meeting](https://hackmd.io/rKi3Rh-mTMKNBGtwQjwDcg)
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[What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2020-08-26/17:00/w/Conda-forge%20dev%20meeting#eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL2hhY2ttZC5pby9wUk15dFVKV1FmU3NJM2xvMGlqQzJRP2VkaXQifQ==)
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Meeting info:
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* To join the video meeting, click this link: https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09
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> [We may want to update these for Zoom. Not sure how to do that]
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* Otherwise, to join by phone, dial +1 347-384-8597 and enter this PIN: 828 997 153#
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* To view more phone numbers, click this link: https://tel.meet/ijv-qsvm-tvn?hs=5
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## Attendees
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* Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra (JRG), Quansight
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* Matthew R. Becker (MRB), CF
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* Cheng H. Lee (CHL), Anaconda
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* Jannis Leidel (JL), Anaconda
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* Filipe Fernandes (FF), CF
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* John Kirkham (JK), NVIDIA
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* Chris Burr (CB), CF
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* Marius van Niekerk (MvN), VoltronData
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* Ryan May (RM), Unidata
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## Agenda
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### Standing items
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* [ ] intros for new folks on the call
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* [ ] (CJ) budget
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* current approvals?
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* Whenever updated numbers land, please screenshare and show the budget.
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* Link is in Keybase (numfocus_spreadsheets.txt)
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* [ ] open votes
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* none
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#### From previous meeting(s)
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### Your __new__() agenda items
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* [x] (MRB) master to main move (https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1162)
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* everything done except feedstocks, releases, conda-smithy, and our github actions
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* releases is broken, opened an issue with github
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* some options for feedstocks
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* make sure to change the upload on branch key
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* todo
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* [ ] (MRB) make an announcement on how to update local clones
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* [ ] (MRB) make sure to update upload_on_branch
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* [x] (JRG/CO) Conda Store
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* https://conda-store.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
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* [x] (CHL) using NumFocus Zoom room for broader community meeting
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* Moving off Google Meet
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* Passed by unanimous consent
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* [ ] (CJW) conda-forge patches for conda backwards compat (`=` is done, but what about `~=` and others)
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* (IF) we should not break deps of conda so people can update their envs
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* todo
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* [ ] bump this at the community meeting
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### Pushed to next meeting
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* [ ] (CB) Now have a 1password account
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### Active votes
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### Subteam updates
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#### Bot
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#### ARM
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#### POWER
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#### CUDA
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#### Docs
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#### staged-recipes
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#### website
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#### security+systems
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### CI infrastructure
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#### Compiler upgrade
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### CFEP updates
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#### Open PRs
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* [cfep-12](https://github.com/conda-forge/cfep/pull/23) Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
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* Stalled since May 26, 2020
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* Active debate about moving to "broken" vs deleting from conda-forge channel
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* Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
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* What were the results of the vote?
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* Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded
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## Discussion
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## Check in on previous action items
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Copy previous action items from last meeting agenda.
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### This meeting
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### Last meeting
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### 2 meetings ago
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### Move to Issue Tracker
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2020-11-18
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* [ ] (IF/MRB/MV) intel oneAPI
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* todo
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* [ ] (Nikolay) licensing for opencl_rt
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* [ ] (Nikolay) intelmpi ABI compat w/ mpich
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* [ ] (MRB/IF) figure out how exactly to package C/C++ compilers
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* [ ] (MRB/IF) think about fortran ABI
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* [x] (MRB) make conda-forge compilers room (add people including keith)
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* [ ] (MB) asking core members to move to "emeritus" status
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* [ ] TODO: Eric to set up quarterly check-in for all core members to see if they're interested in remaining "active" or if they want to move to emeritus
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* Remove emeritus folks from having access to various credentials (api tokens, twitter password, etc.)? This would require a change to the governance doc.
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2020-11-11
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* TODO: Think about bringing in JOSS to provide context around how we might best write papers
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2020-11-03
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* TODO: Check on Forrest Watters permissions for core
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* [x] (FF) Outreachy would cost 6500 USD.
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* Next steps: write abstract and vote on spending of funds.
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2020-10-28
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2020-10-21
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* [ ] (Marius?) Python 2.7 migration
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* ( ) [ ] make a hint
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* ( ) [ ] make an announcement
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* ( ) [ ] make the hint a lint
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2020-10-07
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* [ ] Make sure to add the NVBug info to the cudatoolkit package that conda-forge makes (if we make one)
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2020-09-09
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* [ ] (ED) Update governance docs with similar voting model as what got put into conda-tools (+3 with no -1 is a pass)
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* [ ] (SC) Write jinja template to turn institutional partners yaml into a website https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/blob/master/src/inst_partners.yaml
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* [ ] (SC) Document what needs to be done to create an OVH account and get access
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2020-08-26
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**Docker hub**
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* [ ] (JK) Check in on Azure build workers to see if they have the docker hub limitation.
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* [ ] (JK) work with dockerhub to see if we can get OSS status
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* [ ] Check in again at some point. We haven't heard back as of 2020-09-23
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**OVH**
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* [ ] Shout-out on twitter at some point. "Thanks forOVHCloud for providing a VM", etc. (maybe after we ship qt on windows with it?)
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* [ ] Figure out how to communicate breaking changes to users. Likely should open up an issue immediately for futher discussion. Ping @kkraus, plus capture notes from further up in these meeting notes
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* [ ] John K. will update the cuda toolkit feedstock on the git repo to note the NVBug link to the internal NVIDIA issue tracker
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* [ ] Jonathan will update docs to note that some non-exhaustive list of packages (like cuda-toolkit, MKL, etc.)
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* [ ] Jonathan will review this [PR](https://github.com/AnacondaRecipes/cudatoolkit-feedstock/pull/7)
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* [ ] (Kale) schedule conda working group
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* [ ] cfep-10 next steps: CJ to call a vote for feedback
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* [ ] cfep-06 next steps: Ask staged recipes team to champion this CFEP and move it forward
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* [ ] jakirkham & CJ-wright to sync on adding CUDA to the migration bot
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* [ ] (Eric) Scheduling Anaconda <-> conda-forge sync on anaconda.org requirements gathering
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* Will try and get this scheduled in the next month.
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* [ ] (Anthony) Reach out to NumFocus to figure out legal ramifications of not including licenses in files.
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* [ ] (Eric) check internally for funding levels for hotels & flying folks from the community in?
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* [ ] (Eric) Figure out finances of conda-forge to support themselves?
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* [ ] (jjhelmus) Open up CFEP for which python's we're going to support
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* [ ] (jakirkham) write a blog post on CUDA stuff we discussed today
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* [ ] (jakirkham) update docs on how to add CUDA support to feedstocks
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* [ ] (jakirkham) will open an issue on conda-smithy to investigate Drone issues. (ping the aarch team)
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* https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/954
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* [ ] (ED) Who we are page? Some combination of a FAQ and a who is everyone. FAQ things like:
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* who's the POC for CF <> Anaconda, CF <> NumFocus, CF <> Azure
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* who's the POC for the various subteams?
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* Informal information: roles, day jobs, bios, the whole nine yards, why you're here, etc.
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* Public or internal? I don't really care either way. Anyone feel strongly one way or the other?
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* opt-in to public bios
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* software carpentry has a large number of instructors and has https://carpentries.org/instructors
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* some concern about "yet another place to keep stuff up to date"
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* [ ] (ED) document strategies for reproducible environments using conda-forge
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* [ ] (UK) Static libraries stuff
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* [ ] Add linting hints to builds to find them
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* [x] Recommend how to package them -> CFEP-18
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* [x] We should write docs saying we don't provide support and this is a bad idea. -> CFEP-18

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