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# conda-forge core meeting 2023-06-14
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Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading
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- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
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- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
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- [Last week's meeting](https://hackmd.io/#REPLACE_ME#)
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## Attendees
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| Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation |
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| ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- |
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| matthew r becker | mrb | beckermr | cf |
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| Filipe Fernandes | FF | ocefpaf | conda-forge |
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| John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf |
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| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | chenghlee | Anaconda/cf |
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| Dave Clements | DPC | tnabtaf | Anaconda |
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| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | jaimergp | Quansight/cf |
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| Ken Odegard | KO | kenodegard | Anaconda |
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| James Loy | JML | jmlphd | Anaconda |
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| Mark Anderson | MAA | markan | Anaconda |
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17 people total
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### Standing items
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### From previous meeting(s)
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- [ ] (HV) Windows Fortran migration (see below)
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### Active votes
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### Your __new__() agenda items
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- [x] (JK) Summarize recent Linux build outage issue
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/status/issues/144
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- all linux runners were down
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- package on defaults (Anaconda `main`) uploaded to wrong subdir
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- broke libsolv in repodata fetch - so early in jobs that it broke everything
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- discussed with anaconda, they fixed it
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- we removed defaults everywhere
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- how to improve:
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- process on anaconda side
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- [conda-index fix](https://github.com/conda/conda-index/issues/105) to reject bad packages
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- JK:
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- schema and validation tool for repodata so we can check things
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- more tests!
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- JRG:
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- relax conditions in libsolv that made it barf on this package
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- maybe apply patch to our feedstock of libsolv
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- CHL
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- maybe worth raising how to improve in next week's conda community meeting; e.g., Anaconda customers have long-tail of backwards compatibilty needs (`free` channel still gets used)
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- Wolf:
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- we can ask if we can roll back this change - maybe change to warning
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- the change: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/blob/2fc0cb31a2010d70f3f9197189730400edbd6ef4/ext/repo_conda.c#L315-L319
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- [x] (JK) CUDA 12
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- cuda 12 migrator is going!
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- 30 feedstocks are done
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- changes to commit messaging by Daniel
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- [x] (JK) GLIBC 2.28
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- docker image PR working - needs to be merged after addressing comments
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- interesting discussion about [earthly](https://github.com/earthly/earthly) versus Docker for containers.
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- MB Was thinking of making changes to smithy, but will change docker images to alma8 instead
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- (MB) Big lift remaining is to rebuild all the CDTs
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- [x] (JK) Windows + ARM
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- Some discussion with MS about CI runners.
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- Jaime will be added to thread
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- [x] (JK) Drop some older CUDAs
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- Probably time to drop CUDA 10.2 at least
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- Only [CUDA 11.0+ supported by these data center drivers]( https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/drivers/#cuda-drivers )
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- Docker Support Policy
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- https://gitlab.com/nvidia/container-images/cuda/blob/master/doc/support-policy.md
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- TL;DR some older images are planned for removal soon
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- Have explored this before
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/1708
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- What should the new minimum be?
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- 11.0+ (lower version of 11?)
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- Do we want to keep or drop 11.1 here?
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- 11.2+
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- CUDA Enhanced Compatibility
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- (MvN) Pinged Keith about CUDA 10.2 and he is ok dropping
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- everyone says we should drop 10.2 (JRG to check with openmm and google colab)
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- JRG: Colab is on CUDA 11.8 now! :tada:
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- [x] (HV) Boost unification
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- [PR](https://github.com/conda-forge/boost-feedstock/pull/164) ready, currently aiming at `boost_dev` label until as-of-yet unspecified improvements can be completed
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- Migrator [PR](https://github.com/regro/cf-scripts/pull/1668) exists and should be pretty complete
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- Would like to do this before CPython 3.12 in the fall
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- [x] (HV) Windows Fortran [migration](https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/1359)
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- Open since 2 years; fortran-on-win-migratability will be necessary for scipy soon to support meson builds
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- Migrator work that Isuru wanted has been done - can we start?
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- Side benefit: Would [enable](https://github.com/conda-forge/openblas-feedstock/pull/115) openblas+openmp on windows
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- [x] (JRG) SDG reports: opt-in CI, conda/schemas
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- [x] (WV) ceps for new conda-build YAML schema
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- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/56
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- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/54
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- [x] (DPC) [PackagingCon 2023](https://packaging-con.org/) CFP and registration are open
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- [x] (DPC) Conda newsletter is coming
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- Anything in particular from conda-forge to highlight?
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- Maybe Asmit's work?
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- CUDA 12
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- Conda-Forge NumFOCUS
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- Look for issues in conda-forge/blog for ideas.
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- https://github.com/conda-forge/blog/issues
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### Pushed to next meeting
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### CFEPs
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