Why doesn't Mac use the server podman and podman-remote like in Linux?

[YevheniiPokhvalii]

When you install podman with brew on Linux, it will install both podman and podman-remote - server and client.

$ which podman
/home/linuxbrew/.linuxbrew/bin/podman
$ which podman-remote
/home/linuxbrew/.linuxbrew/bin/podman-remote

podman (server) is ready and easy to use out of the box in Linux and I don't need to spin up any additional machines.
Why does Mac only have podman with the podman-remote functionality? which requires:

podman machine init
podman machine start

Why does it not work the same way like it does in Linux?

[afbjorklund]

The podman program is Linux-only. On Mac and Windows, podman-remote is renamed to just podman.

[YevheniiPokhvalii]

I see. Could you explain what's so different about Mac? Is it something about virtualization?
I thought BSD system is somewhat similar to Linux.

[rhatdan]

Containers are a linux concept they do not exist in BSD worlds. Podman will work with FreeBSD and Jails, as far as I know, but no one has tried to make this work on a Mac, or even if it is possible.

[afbjorklund]

It is possible to run Podman Machine on Linux too, if you want to run the containers on a second kernel (in a VM)

Or some alternative runtimes, that run each container in a new virtual machine. Including the new ones, for WebAssembly

[dfr]

I believe that it might be possible to make something vaguely container-like using macos sandboxes but I don't know for sure and I'm not going to try to find out. Getting podman and buildah working well on FreeBSD is enough to keep me busy. Doug.

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[YevheniiPokhvalii]

Thank you. Now I understand. I found this thread that seems to be related to the subject:
https://macoscontainers.org/
containerd/containerd#5525