Add a mention/ping boolean to message_reference object

[Vioshim]

The proposal in this is to help bots being able to tell when an user is pinging someone through replies, while current behavior is simply checking the message's mention, this can lead to false positives, for that reason this proposal is that the message replies should return wether they are pinging or not, or at least have some way to be able to tell if the reply is mentioning or not, that way moderation bots can easily distinguish and helps to avoid/reduce notifications spam and thus this can helpful for moderation bots.

[panley01]

I think this is an interesting proposal but checking whether the referenced message's author was mentioned is the way the client chooses whether to render @user vs user in the reply too.

If you have automoderation to action mentions, the source of those mentions shouldn't be important (in the case of detecting mention spam)

As text mentions are only valid in message content, you can easily just check the mentions on the reply message, the author ID of the referenced message & then check the reply message content for that user's mention with a regex pattern. That way you can consistently & sanely check if the reply has pinged the original author of the referenced message via a text mention or a reply mention.

I think the dev effort on Discord's behalf for the marginal QoL improvements this would provide are not worth it. The additional field is also junk data most of the time and would add another optional field to the already bloated message object.

[Vioshim]

Ahh I see, this is interesting although I've been trying to use it with a webhook message, and in the mentions it doesn't seem to indicate if this message was pinged, so I guess the proposal is way more specific and it's about returning the webhook id in the mentions if a message is replying to a webhook. Currently been needing this behavior for a proxy oriented application.

[panley01]

The official clients won't provide the option to mention a webhook message in a reply & a webhook ID cannot appear in mentions. The ID of the webhook is returned in the referenced_message field in author -> id and webhook_id.

If your proxy system is using a single webhook, this will let you confirm the webhook being replied to is the one owned by your application and act appropriately. You can also fetch the username of the webhook being replied to by fetching author -> username from the referenced_message field in the reply message object, which you could then use to associate that specific webhook message with the user who created the proxied message being replied to.

I hope this is helpful for what you're trying to achieve!

[Vioshim]

Thanks it is helpful, altho just mostly wanting to distinguish the mention regard, I'm using the official Canary client which seems to allow mentioning a webhook message.

[Vioshim]

Hello there, my bad for asking once more, but I'd like to know if there's any way or method to obtain wether a message is pinging or not a webhook message? Thus far there's no information provided from the api aside of acknowledging the reply, but this doesn't indicate if it's pinging or not. (And since it's not an user, the mentions returns an empty array)

[Vioshim]

Closing this as @silent basically works as workaround to detect wether a message should ping or not, thanks however for the responses in this thread.

[Vioshim]

Aaaand I didn't expect that to ping, my bad-