Plugin system

[fucksophie]

Plugin system using some scripting language like JS, Python or Lua.

My usecase for this would be discord presence support.

[dweymouth]

Do you have examples of existing music player apps with a documented plugin system that I could use for inspiration? Might be nice to reuse an existing standard if possible instead of inventing our own.

[ccoenen]

Example: Media Monkey has the ability to be scripted in JavaScript. MM4 was very well documented on this wiki, but MM5 (current version) is not yet as well documented.

[ccoenen]

Example: The godfather of music players, WINAMP (winamp), did not just whip the LLAMA's Ass, it also had a ton of plugins. The winamp developer wiki is still online, and here is an overview of the SDK examples with the SDK itself downloadable from the same page.

That SDK (the .exe file) can be unpacked with 7-zip for example. This should also work on other operating systems.

[dweymouth]

Converting this to a discussion to gather more thoughts and requirements for this. I think a full-fledged plugin system like Winamp's will be out of scope for now. The use case so far is being able to receive player updates (e.g. to implement a Discord rich presence addon). Though being able to issue simple playback commands (stop, seek, etc) could also be in scope - though this will also eventually be exposed through MPRIS on Linux.

[ccoenen]

I was just collecting examples that I knew about. I hope this did not come across as a requirement-list or something.

I very much agree that at this stage, a discussion is probably better suited.

[dweymouth]

No worries :) At the moment I'm thinking a HTTP solution might be best, i.e. registering an endpoint that Supersonic POSTs play updates to, but will collect some ideas from the discussion as more people chime in with use cases

[langhillie]

I don't have another use case to add I'm also interested in the ability to integrate with discord rich presence

[Neo-Desktop]

Looking for discord support, I came across this discussion.
I particularly like how foobar2000 implemented plugins
see: https://www.foobar2000.org/SDK

nb: looks like Peter (author of fb2k) was either a developer at Nullsoft for winamp or was someone who was in the plugin scene for winamp back in the day

edit: also having a component/plugin system for supersonic could eventually lead to support for visualizers in the future - a la milkdrop

[dweymouth]

If you're looking for Discord rich presence - just want to point out that you don't necessarily have to wait for plugin support because there are projects like https://github.com/ungive/discord-music-presence and https://github.com/FichteFoll/discordrp-mpris that work with the OS media player integrations to detect what's playing and update the Discord status

[ToasterUwU]

In response to the comment above, i personally wasnt happy with either option since i use Linux.
But i found a very minimalist alternative for those two programs that works very nicely on Linux as well.

Link: https://github.com/lazykern/mprisence

Im also packaging this program in nixpkgs rn, so that NixOS and in general nix users can easily download and run it as well.
PR for nixpkgs: NixOS/nixpkgs#432838