Building releng docker images fails

[akurtakov]

Issue can be seen at https://ci.eclipse.org/releng/job/Builds/job/Build-Docker-images/ .

It is caused by Debian 10 EOL https://www.debian.org/News/2024/20240615 . The failing machine is debian/swtgtk3nativebuild but moving this to newer Debian release will cause higher GLIBC requirement .

@laeubi @jonahgraham @HannesWell As you drove the effort to have the minimum GLIBC possible do you have any other proposal but to update to newer Debian?

[akurtakov]

Even moving to Debian 11 now is a short term solution (till next summer) as per https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases .

[HannesWell]

As you drove the effort to have the minimum GLIBC possible do you have any other proposal but to update to newer Debian?

Personally I'm not affected by this anymore as I'm using Debian-12 now (on my Linux workstation).
And no I don't have a better solution. As far as I know Debian is the 'oldest' distro (at least among the most commonly used ones).

Even moving to Debian 11 now is a short term solution (till next summer) as per https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases .

My suggestion would be to move to Debian 11 and when that becoems EOL to move to Debian-12 (and so on :) ).

If there is no supported distribution, with such a low GLIBC requirement, that we can use to compile, then there are (hopefully) no users anymore that have that requirement. And whoever uses EOL distros, should not expect the latest Eclipse to work with it.

[akurtakov]

Once we open the new stream I'll switch to Debian 11 unless someone has better idea by then.

[laeubi]

There is a 10 year ELTS support available (what would be 2029-06-30 for Debain 10)

Freexian aims to keep the updates available for individual users and non-profit organizations. However, the scope of supported packages is defined by the organizations which subscribe to Freexian ELTS to ensure complete security support for their systems and to comply with different regulations.

So if someone really wants that it should be possible. Maybe the IDE-WG need to investigate possible support options (@jonahgraham).

In any case I think it is similar to "supported" java version, we also do not offer extensive long support for older java versions, so libc falls in a similar category for me. Maybe with Java 24 we once will switch to FFM making the problem less prominent as then we do not have libc dependency anymore.

So for me gradually upgrading to newer LTS Debian images sounds reasonable.