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deploy-manage/deploy/elastic-cloud/restrictions-known-problems.md

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* [Regions and Availability Zones](#ec-regions-and-availability-zone)
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For limitations related to logging and monitoring, check the [Restrictions and limitations](../../monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-restrictions-monitoring) section of the logging and monitoring page.
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For limitations related to logging and monitoring, check the [Restrictions and limitations](../../monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-restrictions-monitoring) section of the logging and monitoring page.
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% Occasionally, we also publish information about [Known problems](#ec-known-problems) with our {{ecloud}} or the Elastic Stack.
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raw-migrated-files/cloud/cloud/ec-enable-logging-and-monitoring.md

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### Before you begin [ec-logging-and-monitoring-limitations]
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Some limitations apply when you use monitoring on {{ech}}. To learn more, check the monitoring [restrictions and limitations](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-restrictions-monitoring).
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Some limitations apply when you use monitoring on {{ech}}. To learn more, check the monitoring [restrictions and limitations](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-restrictions-monitoring).
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### Monitoring for production use [ec-logging-and-monitoring-production]
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* If you need to silo {{es}} data for different business departments. Deployments that have been configured to ship logs and metrics to a target monitoring deployment have access to indexing data and can manage monitoring index templates, which is addressed by creating separate monitoring deployments.
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Logs and metrics that get sent to a dedicated monitoring {{es}} deployment [may not be cleaned up automatically](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-retention) and might require some additional steps to remove excess data periodically.
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Logs and metrics that get sent to a dedicated monitoring {{es}} deployment [may not be cleaned up automatically](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-retention) and might require some additional steps to remove excess data periodically.
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### Retention of monitoring daily indices [ec-logging-and-monitoring-retention]
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### Sending monitoring data to a dedicated monitoring deployment [ec-logging-and-monitoring-retention-dedicated-monitoring]
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When [monitoring for production use](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-production), where you configure your deployments **to send monitoring data to a dedicated monitoring deployment** for indexing, this retention period does not apply. Monitoring indices on a dedicated monitoring deployment are retained until you remove them. There are three options open to you:
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When [monitoring for production use](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-production), where you configure your deployments **to send monitoring data to a dedicated monitoring deployment** for indexing, this retention period does not apply. Monitoring indices on a dedicated monitoring deployment are retained until you remove them. There are three options open to you:
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* To enable the automatic deletion of monitoring indices from dedicated monitoring deployments, [enable monitoring](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-enable-logging-and-monitoring-steps) on your dedicated monitoring deployment in {{ech}} to send monitoring data to itself. When an {{es}} deployment sends monitoring data to itself, all monitoring indices are deleted automatically after the retention period, regardless of the origin of the monitoring data.
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* To enable the automatic deletion of monitoring indices from dedicated monitoring deployments, [enable monitoring](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-enable-logging-and-monitoring-steps) on your dedicated monitoring deployment in {{ech}} to send monitoring data to itself. When an {{es}} deployment sends monitoring data to itself, all monitoring indices are deleted automatically after the retention period, regardless of the origin of the monitoring data.
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* Alternatively, you can enable the cleaner service on the monitoring deployment by creating a local exporter. You can define the retention period at the same time.
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raw-migrated-files/cloud/cloud/ec-monitoring-setup.md

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Anything used for production should go to a separate deployment you create only for monitoring. For development or testing, you can send monitoring data to the same deployment. Check [Enable logging and monitoring](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/elastic-cloud-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-production).
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Anything used for production should go to a separate deployment you create only for monitoring. For development or testing, you can send monitoring data to the same deployment. Check [Enable logging and monitoring](../../../deploy-manage/monitor/stack-monitoring/ece-ech-stack-monitoring.md#ec-logging-and-monitoring-production).
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