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title: Flight Planning
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description: Discover how to load a flight plan into the FlyByWire A32NX across various methods, and integrate it with your chosen ATC service.
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description: Discover how to load a flight plan into the FlyByWire A380X across various methods, and integrate it with your chosen ATC service.
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# Flight Planning
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!!! warning "This Page Needs A380X Update"
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[//]: # (TODO)
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<p style="color:yellow; font-size:18px;">TODO:<br/>
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The A380X documentation is work in progress.<br/>
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This page needs to be updated for the A380X.
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</p>
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## Overview
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Flying an airliner is usually done using IFR (Instrument Flight Rules). This means that you will be flying with an IFR flight plan. The IFR flight plan is typically created before the flight, and is then loaded into the aircraft's flight management system (FMS).
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Flying an airliner is usually done using IFR (Instrument Flight Rules). This means that you will be flying with an IFR
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flight plan. The IFR flight plan is typically created before the flight, and is then loaded into the aircraft's flight
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management system (FMS).
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Flying IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) even in a simulation like Microsoft Flight Simulator always requires some level of flight planning.
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Flying IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) even in a simulation like Microsoft Flight Simulator always requires some level of
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flight planning.
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In addition to the obvious route planning, there are several other aspects which are critical to any good flight plan:
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See [Flight Planning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_planning){target=new} on Wikipedia for more information.
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Microsoft Flight Simulator tries to offer a simple way to do route planning (World Map before starting a flight) however this falls short, especially for users wanting a more realistic experience for airliner flying.
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Microsoft Flight Simulator tries to offer a simple way to do route planning (World Map before starting a flight) however,
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this falls short, especially for users wanting a more realistic experience for airliner flying.
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There are various ways to load a flight plan into the aircraft. In real life, pilots typically use an external data link to load flight plans made for the flight by their company. Or they use the MCDU to enter a flight plan manually from their flight briefing documents.
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There are various ways to load a flight plan into the aircraft. In real life, pilots typically use an external data link
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to load flight plans made for the flight by their company. Or they use the FMS in the
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[MFD](../../../pilots-corner/a380x/a380x-briefing/flight-deck/main-panel/mfd.md) to enter a flight plan
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manually from their flight briefing documents.
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As in real-world aircraft, it is common in flight simulation aircraft to integrate these systems directly with the aircraft's flight management system to be able to import all the relevant planning data. This includes the route, altitudes, constraints, fuel, payload (passengers, cargo), and other data points.
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As in real-world aircraft, it is common in flight simulation aircraft to integrate these systems directly with the
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aircraft's flight management system to be able to import all the relevant planning data. This includes the route,
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altitudes, constraints, fuel, payload (passengers, cargo), and other data points.
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See [MCDU F-PLN page](../../../pilots-corner/a32nx/a32nx-briefing/mcdu/f-pln.md) for more information on the aircraft's flight planning in the Multipurpose Control and Display Unit (MCDU).
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Also see the [Preparing the FMS](../../../pilots-corner/a380x/a380x-beginner-guide/03_preparing-fms.md) guide for more
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information. on flight planning especially for the A380X.
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## Loading a flight plan in the A32NX
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## Loading a flight plan in the A380X
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In the A32NX for Microsoft Flight Simulator, we have these options to load a flight plan:
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In the A380X for Microsoft Flight Simulator, we have these options to load a flight plan:
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- [Entering a Flight Plan Manually](../../../pilots-corner/a32nx/a32nx-beginner-guide/preparing-mcdu.md#flight-plan)
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- [Loading a Flight Plan from SimBrief](simbrief.md) (recommended)
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- Creating and Loading a Flight Plan from the MSFS World Map
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- [Creating and Loading a Flight Plan from the MSFS World Map](#msfs-world-map-flight-planning-atc-and-vfr-map)
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!!! warning ""
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MSFS World Map, MSFS ATC, MSFS VFR MAP are not yet supported in the A380X
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As Microsoft Flight Simulator uses a very simplified flight planning system, we have created our own custom FMS (Flight Management System) which is used in the A32NX. It is much closer to the FMS in the real aircraft, and it understands and represents real-world flight plans much more accurately.
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As Microsoft Flight Simulator uses a very simplified flight planning system, we have created our own custom FMS (Flight
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Management System) which is used in the A380X. It is much closer to the FMS in the real aircraft, and it understands and
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represents real-world flight plans much more accurately.
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A custom FMS on the other hand results in issues syncing the flight plan from the aircraft back into the simulator. Therefore, simulator-features as the MSFS ATC or the VFR Map will not always work as expected. Especially flight plans with complex routing may have significant issues if saved backwards or loaded externally through the simulator's simplified flight planning.
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A custom FMS on the other hand results in issues syncing the flight plan from the aircraft back into the simulator.
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Therefore, simulator-features as the MSFS ATC or the VFR Map will not always work as expected. Especially flight plans
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with complex routing may have significant issues if saved backwards or loaded externally through the simulator's
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simplified flight planning.
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This is a general issue for all realistic and complex airliners in Microsoft Flight Simulator and unless the simulator's built-in flight planner and ATC is significantly improved this will always cause problems with realistic airliners.
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This is a general issue for all realistic and complex airliners in Microsoft Flight Simulator and unless the simulator's
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built-in flight planner and ATC is significantly improved this will always cause problems with realistic airliners.
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## MSFS World Map Flight Planning, ATC and VFR Map
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Depending on how you want to use the A32NX in combination with the MSFS' World Map Planning, ATC and VFR Map, you can choose between different methods to load a flight plan into the A32NX:
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Depending on how you want to use the A380X in combination with the MSFS' World Map Planning, ATC and VFR Map, you can
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choose between different methods to load a flight plan into the A380X:
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- [Not Using MSFS World Map, MSFS ATC or MSFS VFR Map](#not-using-msfs-world-map-msfs-atc-or-msfs-vfr-map) (recommended)
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<span style="color:orange;">
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The A380X does not yet support loading a flight plan from MSFS World Map or writing it back to the sim's flight plan
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for use with the MSFS ATC or the VFR Map.
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</span>
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- Loading a Flight Plan from the MSFS World Map
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- Using MSFS World Map and MSFS ATC
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- Using a SimBrief Flight Plan and MSFS ATC
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- [Using MSFS World Map and MSFS ATC](#using-the-msfs-world-map-flight-planner-and-msfs-atc)
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- [Using a SimBrief Flight Plan and MSFS ATC](#importing-a-simbrief-flight-plan-and-using-msfs-atc)
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### Not Using MSFS World Map, MSFS ATC or MSFS VFR Map
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This is the ideal setup for users who want to use the A32NX in combination with Online ATC services (Vatsim, Ivao, PilotEdge,...), 3rd party ATC add-ons or no ATC at all.
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This is the ideal setup for users who want to use the A380X in combination with Online ATC services (Vatsim, Ivao,
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PilotEdge,...), 3rd party ATC add-ons or no ATC at all.
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We recommend using our built-in integration with [SimBrief](https://www.simbrief.com){target=_blank} for flight planning. This allows you to directly import flight plans from SimBrief into the MCDU.
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We recommend using our built-in integration with [SimBrief](https://www.simbrief.com){target=_blank} for flight
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planning. This allows you to directly import flight plans from SimBrief into the FMS.
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See our [SimBrief Integration Guide](simbrief.md) for more information.
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See our [SimBrief Integration Guide](./simbrief.md) for more information.
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As long as MSFS ATC and VFR Map are not required, the aircraft's flight plan does not have to be synchronized back to
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the MSFS flight planner (set `flyPad's Setting > Sim Options > Sync MSFS Flight Plan` to `None`).
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The MSFS ATC and VFR Map will not be aware of the flight plan at all and cannot be used.
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The MSFS ATC and VFR Map will <span style="color:orange;">**not**</span> be aware of the flight plan at all and cannot
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be used.
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### Workaround to use MSFS ATC
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To still have some use of the built-in MSFS ATC and VFR Map in the A380X you can load an identical flight plan into
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the MSFS WorldMap and into the aircraft. You can either manually enter the flight plan into the aircraft's FMS or
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load it from SimBrief.
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**Make sure the plan you enter into the MSFS World Map is really identical to the one in the aircraft.**
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If you plan to import a SimBrief flight plan, please do **not** set a destination airport in the MSFS World Map as
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otherwise the aircraft will import the MSFS World Map flight plan, and it will not offer the "INIT REQUEST" option.
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flight planning of the MSFS World Map. Please do expect some issues, especially for procedures (SID, STAR, APPR).
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If you want to use the MSFS World Map Flight Planner to build and load a flight plan, you need to set the `Sync MSFS
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Flight Plan` option in the `flyPad's Setting > Sim Options > Sync MSFS Flight Plan` to `Load Only`.
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Any changes made to the flight plan in the FMS will <span style="color:orange;">**not**</span> be saved back to the
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MSFS flight plan. This means the MSFS ATC and VFR Map will <span style="color:orange;">**not**</span> be aware of these
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This is the ideal setup for users who want to use the simplified flight planning of the MSFS World Map and the MSFS
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manager in Microsoft Flight Simulator. This results in issues syncing the flight plan from the MCDU back into the
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simulator. Do not expect it to work properly in all cases.
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manager in Microsoft Flight Simulator. This results in issues syncing the flight plan from the MCDU back into the
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simulator. Do not expect it to work properly in all cases.
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