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title: Chris Smith
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episode: 5
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buzzsproutId: 9537767
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recorded: 2021-10-21
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published: 2021-11-12
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Chris Smith is interviewed by Joachim Breitner and Andres Löh. Chris is the author of the CodeWorld teaching tool and discusses why too much curry in the language can make error messages hard to digest and why a self respecting testing library certainly should be used to test itself.

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* [Chris on twitter](https://twitter.com/cdsmithus)
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* [Chris webpage](https://cdsmithus.medium.com/)
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* [CodeWorld](https://code.world/)
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* [Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs](https://sarabander.github.io/sicp/html/index.xhtml)
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* [Gloss Graphics Library](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/gloss)
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* [Sokoban in CodeWorld](https://haskell-via-sokoban.nomeata.de/)
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* [Graphics library for the CodeWorld](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/codeworld-api)
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* [Lock-step simulation is child's play](https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3110247)
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* [Groq, Inc](https://groq.com/)
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* [HMock](https://hackage.haskell.org/package/HMock-0.1.0.1)
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* [Haskell Program Coverage (hpc)](https://wiki.haskell.org/Haskell_program_coverage)
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* [The Snap Framework](https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en//pubs/archive/37267.pdf)
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* [Co-Hacks](https://cdsmithus.medium.com/)

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