CAMPLY Crashes with latest Python 3.14.2

[cowelld]

I've recently downloaded and installed the newest camply (pipx ....) but when running it I get
"Illegal instruction (core dumped) camply --help "
Research has the error being a machine instruction that is in a bin file but not supported by my processor. I'm running Python 3.14.2 on a Fedora 43 workstation with a AMD A8-3850 APU × 4 cpu. Admittedly the cpu is over ten years old. I haven't had any other problems with Python before so is this now to be expected? I've enjoyed the camply program and found it extremely useful. Thanks.

[juftin]

Taking a closer look at this - camply's dependencies haven't been updated in a bit. I tried to replicate this, and was encountering errors to begin with, but using the latest allowable versions of pandas and pydantic I had all tests pass #380

Any other stacktrace or info you can share?

[cowelld]

Jan 20  5:19:00 PM systemd-coredum: Process 325105 (camply) of user 1000 dumped core.

Module /usr/bin/python3.14 from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _asyncio.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _posixsubprocess.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _interpreters.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _multibytecodec.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module unicodedata.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _queue.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _heapq.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module select.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _hmac.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _blake2.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _hashlib.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libcrypto.so.3 from rpm openssl-3.5.4-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libssl.so.3 from rpm openssl-3.5.4-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _ssl.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _socket.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _pickle.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libuuid.so.1 from rpm util-linux-2.41.3-7.fc43.x86_64
Module _uuid.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libmpdec.so.4 from rpm mpdecimal-4.0.1-2.fc43.x86_64
Module _decimal.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _random.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _bisect.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module math.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _struct.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libzstd.so.1 from rpm zstd-1.5.7-2.fc43.x86_64
Module _zstd.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module liblzma.so.5 from rpm xz-5.8.1-4.fc43.x86_64
Module _lzma.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libbz2.so.1 from rpm bzip2-1.0.8-21.fc43.x86_64
Module _bz2.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module zlib.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libz.so.1 from rpm zlib-ng-2.3.2-2.fc43.x86_64
Module binascii.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module fcntl.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module grp.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module _json.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Module libpython3.14.so.1.0 from rpm python3.14-3.14.2-1.fc43.x86_64
Stack trace of thread 325105:
#0 0x00007fd04ec2dccc _Z41__static_initialization_and_destruction_0v (_multiarray_umath.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so + 0x2dccc)
#1 0x00007fd05fded4a7 call_init (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x54a7)
#2 0x00007fd05fded57d _dl_init (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x557d)
#3 0x00007fd05fde97b5 __GI__dl_catch_exception (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x17b5)
#4 0x00007fd05fdf4529 dl_open_worker (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0xc529)
#5 0x00007fd05fde9716 __GI__dl_catch_exception (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x1716)
#6 0x00007fd05fdf49da _dl_open (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0xc9da)
#7 0x00007fd05f47b7b4 dlopen_doit (libc.so.6 + 0x6e7b4)
#8 0x00007fd05fde9716 __GI__dl_catch_exception (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x1716)
#9 0x00007fd05fde9869 _dl_catch_error (/usr/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x1869)
#10 0x00007fd05f47b2a3 _dlerror_run (libc.so.6 + 0x6e2a3)
#11 0x00007fd05f47b86b dlopen@GLIBC_2.2.5 (libc.so.6 + 0x6e86b)
#12 0x00007fd05f89bf60 _imp_create_dynamic.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x29bf60)
#13 0x00007fd05f773c61 PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#14 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#15 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#16 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#17 0x00007fd05f7d1231 PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d1231)
#18 0x00007fd05f7e707d builtin___import.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1e707d)
#19 0x00007fd05f773c61 _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#20 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 _PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#21 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#22 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#23 0x00007fd05f7d0d2a PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d0d2a)
#24 0x00007fd05f85d4d4 _PyEval_ImportName (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25d4d4)
#25 0x00007fd05f7783cf _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1783cf)
#26 0x00007fd05f76b7c5 _PyEval_Vector (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x16b7c5)
#27 0x00007fd05f85bbf7 PyEval_EvalCode (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25bbf7)
#28 0x00007fd05f87b0b1 builtin_exec.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x27b0b1)
#29 0x00007fd05f773c61 PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#30 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#31 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#32 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#33 0x00007fd05f7d1231 PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d1231)
#34 0x00007fd05f7e707d builtin___import.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1e707d)
#35 0x00007fd05f773c61 _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#36 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 _PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#37 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#38 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#39 0x00007fd05f7d0d2a PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d0d2a)
#40 0x00007fd05f85d4d4 _PyEval_ImportName (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25d4d4)
#41 0x00007fd05f7783cf _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1783cf)
#42 0x00007fd05f76b7c5 _PyEval_Vector (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x16b7c5)
#43 0x00007fd05f85bbf7 PyEval_EvalCode (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25bbf7)
#44 0x00007fd05f87b0b1 builtin_exec.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x27b0b1)
#45 0x00007fd05f773c61 PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#46 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#47 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#48 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#49 0x00007fd05f7d1231 PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d1231)
#50 0x00007fd05f7e707d builtin___import.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1e707d)
#51 0x00007fd05f773c61 _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#52 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 _PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#53 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)
#54 0x00007fd05f7d2115 PyObject_CallMethodObjArgs (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d2115)
#55 0x00007fd05f7d1231 PyImport_ImportModuleLevelObject (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1d1231)
#56 0x00007fd05f85d4d4 _PyEval_ImportName (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25d4d4)
#57 0x00007fd05f7783cf _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x1783cf)
#58 0x00007fd05f76b7c5 _PyEval_Vector (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x16b7c5)
#59 0x00007fd05f85bbf7 PyEval_EvalCode (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x25bbf7)
#60 0x00007fd05f87b0b1 builtin_exec.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x27b0b1)
#61 0x00007fd05f773c61 _PyEval_EvalFrameDefault (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x173c61)
#62 0x00007fd05f79f4c5 _PyFunction_Vectorcall (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x19f4c5)
#63 0x00007fd05f78f351 object_vacall.lto_priv.0 (libpython3.14.so.1.0 + 0x18f351)

[cowelld]

I loaded camply on another machine, a Dell laptop with an Intel Core i5-2430M x 2 processor and the same Op system, and it runs fine. My guess is it's with the cPython binaries. It's hard to say how their compiler was optimized (everything is on a Fedora RPM).