(Lots of) Missing Words

[Crissium]

I acquired an electronic version of the Oxford Dictionary of English and compared the list of headwords with en_GB (Marco Pinto)/wordlist_marcoagpinto_20240501_276252w.txt. I found 72,767 missing words in total but of course this list requires manual proofreading. Here's a sample:

batt
battels
battement
batterie
battery-operated
battily
battiness
battle-scarred
battlewagon
bauera
bavardage
bavarois
bavian
bawdry
bawheid
bawley
bawn
baya
bayadère
baza
bazillionaire
bazoo
bazoom
bbl.
be-

Among these 'bawdry' seems like a serious omission, 'bbl.' actually already exists as 'bbl' and 'be-' should not be included, but others are probably too rare to be of any interest…

I browsed through the list and did find some other words that at least I don't have to consult a dictionary to understand:

artisanship
freedwoman (freedman is present)
haply
harrowingly
riviera (Riviera is present)
topstitch
tsardom
uhlan

nonexisting_words.txt

By the way, I'd like to suggest a couple of proper nouns: Brontë, Gaskell, Turgenev, Zola. Actually I removed all headwords with white space. I could upload another version with proper nouns included.

[marcoagpinto]

Heya,

On Sunday, I will have a look.

Thanks!

[marcoagpinto]

Heya,

I have added the ones you placed in normal view:

*** Words suggested by Crissium - START ***
89600) batt + batts + batt's
89601) battels
89602) battement + battements + battement's
89603) batterie + batteries + batterie's
89604) battery-operated
89605) battily
89606) battiness + battiness's
89607) battle-scarred
89608) battlewagon + battlewagons + battlewagon's
89609) bauera + bauera's
89610) bavardage + bavardage's
89611) bavarois + bavaroises + bavarois's
89612) bavian + bavians + bavian's
89613) bawdry + bawdries + bawdry's
89614) bawheid + bawheids + bawheid's
89615) bawley + bawleys + bawley's
89616) bawn + bawns + bawn's
89617) baya + bayas + baya's
89618) bayadère + bayadères + bayadère's
89619) baza + bazas + baza's
89620) bazillionaire + bazillionaires + bazillionaire's
89621) bazoom + bazooms + bazoom's
89622) artisanship + artisanships + artisanship's
89623) freedwoman + freedwoman's
89624) haply
89625) harrowingly
89626) riviera + rivieras + riviera's
89627) topstitch +s + ing +ed
89628) tsardom + tsardoms + tsardom's
89629) uhlan+ uhlans + uhlan's
89630) Brontë + Brontë's
89631) Gaskell + Gaskell's
89632) Turgenev + Turgenev's
89633) Zola + Zola's
*** Words suggested by Crissium - END ***

"bazoo" Oxford claims to be a US word.

Thank you for the wordlist, I have downloaded it and will slowly add them.

It may take a very long time to add so many words as they have to be analysed one by one to see if they accept plurals, etc.. Currently I lack the spare time as I have an ongoing PhD.

It may take years to add them, anyway.

[amunizp]

Hi Marco, just found your website and I am impressed the amount of work you put into this.
I just found another source of names that might need to be included but hopefully does not need too much checking?
https://www.iamnotatypo.org/dear-tech-giants
It is the names of people from the UK's office of national statistics or a CSV hosted in the above website.

I made a comment on this bug report as I feel it is a general all languages issue especially in a more global world: hunspell/hunspell#113

My question in your case: how can I help? Both with the list mentioned by Crissum and this new proposed list. I can make pull request for the latter.

How did you add the names of cities for example? I found fairly small towns included like Frimely.

[marcoagpinto]

Heya, @amunizp ,

Currently, I can't do much since I have a private PhD presentation in two weeks and I don't know later when I will have a real presentation.

I can't focus much on things that take whole days/weeks/months to do, I am just doing basic stuff, such as creating a rule or two in LanguageTool, updating the website with small enhancements, etc.

Here is my plan:
On 1-NOV I will release an update for the dictionary because it is the deadline in Gerrit for the next major release of LibreOffice.

On 1-JAN-2025 I will make another release, and if I already have the PhD, things will go back to normal in 2025.

This is my plan.

Thanks!

[LinuxOnTheDesktop]

   I hope that the presentation went well!

   The word 'seize' is missing. This is from Thunderbird:

   This is from this very Firefox window:

   This is from the Oxford English Dictionary.

   Oh dear!

[marcoagpinto]

I hope that the presentation went well!

The word 'seize' is missing. This is from Thunderbird:

This is from this very Firefox window:

This is from the Oxford English Dictionary.

Oh dear!

Heya,

Yes, we did two presentations at least so far, but no PhD as the "real" one is still needed.

Regarding your GitHub ticket, the Mozilla default dictionary is now -ISE, so the verb there is: "seise":
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seise

Does this make sense?

Thanks!

[LinuxOnTheDesktop]

I've had such a viva (if that's what's at issue) myself. It is no picnic - well, some of them are, actually . .

Is 'seise' really British English? It does not sound like it to me!

[marcoagpinto]

I've had such a viva (if that's what's at issue) myself. It is no picnic - well, some of them are, actually . .

Is 'seise' really British English? It does not sound like it to me!

Yes, according to Collins:
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/seise

[marcoagpinto]

People were complaining that real British English uses -ISE, so now it is -ISE.

[LinuxOnTheDesktop]

Oh. So the British word used to be 'seize' and now it is 'seise'? The new word looks peculiar to me, but I suppose that it - the new word - is more consistent with other British words such as 'realise' (sic). Hmm. I'll just add 'seize' to my Mozilla dictionaries. Thank you for the explanation.

[marcoagpinto]

Oh. So the British word used to be 'seize' and now it is 'seise'? The new word looks peculiar to me, but I suppose that it - the new word - is more consistent with other British words such as 'realise' (sic). Hmm. I'll just add 'seize' to my Mozilla dictionaries. Thank you for the explanation.

yes, even Microsoft (I have been told) started using -ISE words for British.

We must follow the trend.

But always remember that in GitHub I also have a folder for ("ise + ize") with both forms in case someone needs to use Oxford spelling (-IZE).

[marcoagpinto]

People were sending me e-mails complaining about -IZE, so now it is -ISE.

[LinuxOnTheDesktop]

But always remember that in GitHub I also have a folder for ("ise + ize") with both forms in case someone needs to use Oxford spelling (-IZE).

That is excellent.

[marcoagpinto]

Heya,

I looked into Oxford Dictionaries, and it doesn't say there that there is a British and a US variant, so I added an exception to the conversion to -ISE in my tool:
exceptions_editor_gadget$+"_seize"+#LF$

This will add the following words to the dictionary:

seize
seizes
seizing
seized
seizability
seizable

Is it okay for you now?

😛 😛 😛

[LinuxOnTheDesktop]

Yes, good!