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Well for it's worth the answer was to use this syntax rather.

` ISwapChainPanelNative* panelNative;

winrt::get_unknown(testPanel())->QueryInterface(__uuidof(ISwapChainPanelNative), (void**)&panelNative);`

As an aside having samples built using WinUI 3 would be really great!

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