A chance Microsoft give you to fully support the latest Windows API #1142
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I, for one, do not care about Microsoft APIs for several reasons. One - I am *nix person, developing for Linux and using macOS as my workstation.
Also, I like portability. So when I am developing something with UI I will use Gtk so I can run this on Windows, Linux, macOS and get same results.
For people happy to lock themselves into Windows Modula-3 is absolutely wrong choice. Use Visual something, get on with .NET something… Do not make your life hard with Modula-3!
… On 16. 1. 2023., at 19:37, nsgnkhibdk2cls0f ***@***.***> wrote:
Many other languages build their Windows API interfaces using this Microsoft tool:
https://github.com/microsoft/win32metadata <https://github.com/microsoft/win32metadata>
It's up you to decide to make Modula-3 up to speed with other languages or not.
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I know about IUP. FreeBasic has full bindings for IUP and other projects developed by scuri like IM, CD. FreeBasic also has many text editors and IDEs based on IUP, some written in FreeBasic itself. IUP is fairly well known on the FreeBasic community. The problem is, does IUP has any working binding for CM3? You all mentioned a library without showing if they have a working binding for CM3 or not. If they are not, they are pretty much useless for a CM3 user unless he could make a CM3 binding himself. Both Gtk and IUP are complex pieces of C code very difficult to create a CM3 binding for. |
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It seems both Gtk and IUP have no working CM3 binding. Windows API is different. Even though the current interface is incomplete, it's already there. What I proposed on this thread is simply make use of Microsoft's tool to automatically generate CM3 interface for Windows API, thus updating your dated version to the latest version on par with Microsoft. |
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How about using m2tom3 converter? ( I wrote more details inside another discussion) |
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ADW Modula-2's WinAPI headers may have licensing problems. I don't know if it's legal to just convert their headers and use with CM3. I'm not sure about the licensing of it, if you are allowed to do such a thing or not, ADW Modula-2 only said it's freeware (not even open source). |
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} ADW Modula-2's WinAPI headers may have licensing problems. I.e. we can read this phrase as IMHO, the simplest way is directly ask owner of ADW Modula-2. |
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This is the address listed on env.chm part of ADW Modula-2 distro: [email protected] modula2.org has a feedback form: https://www.modula2.org/feedback.php Your message will be go to modula2.org's site owner first before to ADW Modula-2 if you use this feedback form. |
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@VictorMiasnikov Download this and unpack: https://github.com/1997tn/modula2/raw/main/ADW%20Software%20Modula-2.zip You could try it yourself. I tried. It doesn't work. |
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In case when one distributive of Modula-2 has non-free license, then we can use source code of another distributive. We can try, for example, XDS Oberon-2/Modula-2 |
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The problem is, does XDS Oberon-2/Modula-2 has a fairly complete WinAPI headers like ADW Modula-2? |
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Thank You, I have 2 - 3 binary distributive of ADW Modula-2. ( And I have successfully compiled XDS Modula-2/Oberon-2 ) P.S. We even can try early ( with non-broken Cygwin target) GNU Modula-2 |
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So you have ADW Modula-2 already. ADW Modula-2 installer can't be extracted to get headers like other installers. I have to install it and zip it in case someone wanted to get the headers they don't have to install ADW Modula-2 like me. It seems not needed anymore, I will delete this repository. Btw, are you sure XDS Modula-2/Oberon-2 has a fairly complete WinAPI headers like ADW Modula-2? |
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GNU Modula-2 is very bad at Windows support. It's not even work natively without Cygwin (currently it's also broken on Cygwin). Why do you expect it has WinAPI headers? |
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Personal for me, "WinAPI" is only example. Try use "SWIG for Modula-3" and ( or) m2tom3 ( Modula-2 to Modula-3 translator / converter) and public bad or good results. ( if You want, of course. Thank! ) |
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Many other languages build their Windows API interfaces using this Microsoft tool:
https://github.com/microsoft/win32metadata
It's up you to decide to make Modula-3 up to speed with other languages or not.
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