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Revise Telco minutes and update scheduling poll link
Updated meeting minutes with details on release, PR discussions, and voting processes. Added a link to the poll for scheduling the next telco.
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SB, - MarkusK, LukasP (FAIRmat)
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SB, AB, HB, BW, PC, RB, FdA, CZ, ZM, HG, FS - MarkusK, LukasP (FAIRmat)
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- Release v2025.11
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- PC: release went fine, quite some definitions are still left in contributed
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- MK: drafting the NeXus paper is also in its finish.
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- LP: NeXus Ontology needs to be also updated
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- AB: our release cycle should also include the update of the ontology
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- PC: CI/CD could be added to generate/update the ontology automatically
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- Some PRs still needs to be merged and a patched release could include them
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- LP: can we release only regularly (e.g. once per year)
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- AB/BW: No, we could release at any time. RO should be also asked.
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- PRs:
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- NXparameter - PR #1560
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- MK: CI/CD was failing which required an Attribute ‘model’ to be moved to be a Field because ‘model was also defined as a Field. (Sphinx script handles Attribute names and Field names under the same namespaces)
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- CP: this fix is problematic, because it can always happen that a Field has the same name as an Attribute or a filename matches an Attribute name pattern (e.g. nameType partial). Rather, the sphinx script needs to be fixed.
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- MK volunteered to make a separate issue on this.
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- AB: model could be removed from the base class and can be defined by whoever needs it.
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- SB: let us check it also with RO as it was his PR.
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- Voting process and NXgoniometer - PR #1561
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- Vote did not pass, and a cleaner voting process may be needed.
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- AB: a possibility is: to define a 1 week commenting time, and then start a 1 week vote where no more comments are expected.
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- BW: specifically this PR could handle conventions differently. More discussion could be useful.
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- FdA: why not stay as now, voting starts, but comments could come in still
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- AB: this does not solve the process issue
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- HB: Let us go back to definitions and agree on: What is NeXus?
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- AB: 1) self-descriptive machine-readable standard? 2) community agreement? - In general (2) for App Defs, and more towards (1) for base classes.
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- BW: process may not be wrong, but more discussion is needed.
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- LP: while 1+1 is an option, actual experience shows that long-planned/discussed topics are still bringing issues to reviewers.
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- AB: Contributed definitions could/should be considered as a discussion period.
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- LP: Especially when a PRs is brought up to bring it to the standard.
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- AB: Let us make a suggestion for improving the constitution. What about 1+1w?
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- PC: 1w is enough for comments
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- BW: it would not make any difference
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- SB: a) it works already like this. b) 1w would not be long enough for actual vote
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- AB: actually, we did make modifications as a result of comments and merged not what the vote actually started on.
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- MK: we may not need to try stop commenting, but voting should be considered seriously; 1w is too short for vote.
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- BW: instead of 1+1w, let us call for comments and suggest a specific date for starting a vote.
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- SB: allow shortening the vote time if the vote is already certain.
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- HG: not everyone can follow all PRs and check if it really fits to local beamline needs. Not to vote, “Obstain” or “No” : not always clear what to do.
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- AB: more and more obtains are arriving. It is normal. We should all add opinions together. We can do it actually by voting.
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- HB: we need a strong agreement on the constitution and it shall be followed, or alternative processes could be proposed.
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- AB: consensus was and shall always be a priority.
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- RO: if comments make it obvious voting could be cancelled.
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- FdA: good to note that obstaining is not the same as simply not voting.
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- AB: No, obtaining is an important contribution.
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- HG: Thank you for the clarifications. it is convincing.
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- BW: a failing vote and restarting is a vote is actually is the same
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- RO: important to understand well the value of Obstaining compared to simply not voting.
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- Remaining PRs moved to milestone ‘’NXDL 2026’ and reviewed if they can go to a patch release ‘NXDL 2026.01’ by Jan 9, 2026.
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Please help to choose the date by responding to [the poll](XXX) by XXX.
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Please help to choose the date by responding to [the poll](https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/avJ3GlVa) by Nov 28.
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We are planning to hold the telco in the regular slot of UTC 15:00. Check your local time to avoid scheduling surprises!

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