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| 1 | +# Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2025-03-05 |
| 2 | + |
| 3 | +## Links |
| 4 | + |
| 5 | +* **Recording**: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFB-IVB7kcI> |
| 6 | +* **GitHub Issue**: <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1693> |
| 7 | + |
| 8 | +## Present |
| 9 | + |
| 10 | +* Antoine du Hamel @aduh95 (voting member) |
| 11 | +* Chengzhong Wu @legendecas (voting member) |
| 12 | +* Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (voting member) |
| 13 | +* Marco Ippolito @marco-ippolito (voting member) |
| 14 | +* Michael Dawson @mhdawson (voting member) |
| 15 | +* Richard Lau @richardlau (voting member) |
| 16 | +* Robert Nagy @ronag (voting member) |
| 17 | +* Ruben Bridgewater @BridgeAR (voting member) |
| 18 | +* Ruy Adorno @ruyadorno (voting member) |
| 19 | +* Paolo Insogna @ShogunPanda (voting member) |
| 20 | +* Michaël Zasso @targos (voting member) |
| 21 | + |
| 22 | +## Agenda |
| 23 | + |
| 24 | +### Announcements |
| 25 | + |
| 26 | +* no announcements this week. |
| 27 | + |
| 28 | +### Reminders |
| 29 | + |
| 30 | +* Remember to nominate people for the [contributor spotlight](https://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/doc/contributing/reconizing-contributors.md#bi-monthly-contributor-spotlight) |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +### CPC and Board Meeting Updates |
| 33 | + |
| 34 | +* No update this week |
| 35 | + |
| 36 | +*Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. |
| 37 | + |
| 38 | +### nodejs/node |
| 39 | + |
| 40 | +* Deadlock at process shutdown [#54918](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/54918) |
| 41 | + * no update this week |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +### nodejs/nodejs.org |
| 44 | + |
| 45 | +* Talk about how Node.js is funded - fund maintainers [#6626](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/issues/6626) |
| 46 | + * We have turned on OpenCollective and GitHub sponsors and documented where how we would spend funds - <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/blob/main/Nodejs-Funding-Sources.md> |
| 47 | + * agreed to remove tsc-agenda for now |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +* Talk about how Node.js is funded - foundation and company support [#6625](https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/issues/6625) |
| 50 | + * Discussion on sponsors page on Nodejs.org - <https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/discussions/7477> |
| 51 | + * agreed to remove tsc-agenda for now |
| 52 | + |
| 53 | +* Test runner matching every .ts and .js if glob is not provided - <https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/56546> |
| 54 | + * side effect of enabling TSC support by default, broke some users, will have same problem |
| 55 | + with 22 backport. |
| 56 | + * already a fair number of differences in test runner between the LTS versions, current. |
| 57 | + * A few suggestions in terms of how to address |
| 58 | + * If we want to backport, we need to agree on a solution |
| 59 | + * FYI as there is no solution that does not cause some group some pain. |
| 60 | + * Michael tradeoff is between users of 22 having to opt in, versus breaking people when it |
| 61 | + automatically includes TS files |
| 62 | + * Joyee seems that that auto match behaviour does not seem desirable anyway so does not |
| 63 | + seem like we should backport |
| 64 | + * Marco, would be an option, but some people mentioned they do include both. |
| 65 | + * Joyee still comes down to using with glob, can we backport so that not included by default |
| 66 | + * Marco, likely to be backported in April so no rush but please review and comment |
| 67 | + * Michael Z, I assume when you say it searches everything I assume you mean it does not |
| 68 | + include node_modules. Looking at the code that may not be true and it would run tests in the |
| 69 | + node_modules directory. |
| 70 | + * Richard, a bit worried if we discuss backporting globs to Node.js 20, seems like we have |
| 71 | + already pulled back more than normal due to require esm which is good, but other things are |
| 72 | + being proposed just because we are doing a SemVer minor. Want to be careful about what |
| 73 | + we pull into 20. |
| 74 | + |
| 75 | +### nodejs/TSC |
| 76 | + |
| 77 | +* Let's talk about the CI situation [#1614](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1614) |
| 78 | + * talked about shutdown problem before, nothing other specific to discuss |
| 79 | + |
| 80 | +* Open Corepack Vote [#1527](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/pull/1527) |
| 81 | + * Marco, added the agenda tag to this one. |
| 82 | + * Something broke in corepack and we had to do a release in all LTS versions. We |
| 83 | + are still working on 20. Work around was for people to do corepack install |
| 84 | + which turned out not to be a huge issue. |
| 85 | + * Based on how people could easily install corepack to address issue, its probably |
| 86 | + a good time to consider if we can remove it as it has been demonstrated people |
| 87 | + can work around, and that there is a burden in including it. |
| 88 | + * Michael Zasso (in chat): <https://github.com/nodejs/package-maintenance/blob/main/docs/version-management/proposal-next-steps.md> AFAIK the vote was postponed until package maintenance team determines it's good to go. But it seems that the initiative lost its momentum |
| 89 | + * Michael anybody in the meeting who object or need more time to consider before |
| 90 | + agreeing it can move forward. |
| 91 | + * Nobody in the meeting raised their hand |
| 92 | + * Marco’s plan is to |
| 93 | + * At mention the package maintenance team in the issue |
| 94 | + * Land the PR if there are no objections on Monday |
| 95 | + |
| 96 | +### nodejs/security-wg |
| 97 | + |
| 98 | +* Update on CVEs for EOL Release Lines – MITRE Removal & Next Steps [#1443](https://github.com/nodejs/security-wg/issues/1443) |
| 99 | + * <https://github.com/nodejs/nodejs.org/pull/7537/files> |
| 100 | + |
| 101 | +## Strategic Initiatives |
| 102 | + |
| 103 | +* Michael Zasso - V8 currency, please help me as there are many issues in the build |
| 104 | +System |
| 105 | + * <https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/57114> |
| 106 | + * issues on windows, smart os and arm |
| 107 | + * Richard found out why the V8 CI was broken and opened a PR to fix it |
| 108 | + * Chengzhong has identified issue related to workers planning to submit patch to v8 |
| 109 | +* Antoine - core promise apis - no update |
| 110 | +* Joyee - startup snapshot - no update |
| 111 | +* Next-10 - survey now planned for after the collaborator summit. |
| 112 | + |
| 113 | +## Upcoming Meetings |
| 114 | + |
| 115 | +* **Node.js Project Calendar**: <https://nodejs.org/calendar> |
| 116 | + |
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