XLibre
Fork the other libraries and projects under the xorg system #18
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If they still build against XLibre, why bother? |
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I was thinking more along the lines of getting the code here for safe keeping just in case. |
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They better do this. the people at x.org are going through all the x11 code and removing anything even remotely smelling of the fork maintainer. |
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This entire project was started because Red Hat doesn't want to put anything that could be considered 'effort' into the X11 ecosystem. They just want it to work as XWayland, so they'll never have to worry about Xorg ever again. Xorg's situation is a form of maintenance mode pushed to an almost militant extreme. Why would they go out of their way to break these libraries and projects for XLibre? If they acted on spite to break these libraries, they'd probably break XWayland as well. This project will already have its hands full fixing up Xorg and the many, many drivers associated with it - so long as those libraries you mentioned still build against XLibre, I don't see why you need to fork them, as well. |
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Emotional investment. This may have just made them decide to do anything to kill x. |
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A lot of why Wayland is even considered a viable replacement for X11 is because XWayland can mostly bridge the gap between the old and the new. If they break XWayland through breaking these projects, a lot of software that's still X11-only goes with it - which means people who use Linux desktops to make money start to get very annoyed, and start wondering why certain distributions aren't packaging Xorg anymore. I doubt they'll go that far. If they do, then sure, it's worth forking those projects, but the amount of stupidity that would have to go into such a decision is simply too much, even for Red Hat and IBM. |
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The one thing i learned in my 43-44 years of life. Is never underestimate the stupidity of people. combing through the code to remove anything he remotely touched while having sites like phoronix run hit pieces saying 'he can't code' etc. It means them just up and breaking X and telling people to 'switch to wayland' is not out of the possibility. |
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It should be done because the willingness to end X, even at the cost of xwayland is very high. Many projects that rely on X have said they felt forced to incorporate wayland support at some level. Most noted was the PlayStation 2 emulator PCSX2's lead developer who originally was vehemently against wayland support, suddenly just reversed course over contributed code and then suddenly wayland get magically fixed. It waslike month 1, "wayland is garbage, wayland sucks, we'll never support wayland" and then it's like "oh... wayland's okay and it's going ahead"... Like WTF?! This is why all the X related projects need to be backed up immediately. Even if duplicated outside of xlibre, it needs to be done now. I do not trust FreeDesktops, The XOrg Group, Red Hat, or IBM to say the rest of xorg is safe for now. It's not. If they were willing to cut off xlibre, then they'll cut off the entire project. If I have time, I can try to start pulling packaged sources to at least get a reserve of them to host on my end here, but as far as a full git hosting of the rest of the X sources, I'd rather @metux host the sources for development than me. I'm no developer, but I'll gladly make an archive if needed as a stopgap. |
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Update: So, using a script, I was able to pretty much clone out every archive, regardless of usage, and took an md5sum of everything. I'll get to work uploading everything to be sorted out by a real developer, but everything is grabbed. Here's what I grabbed so far: but that's everything backed up. I'll be trying to upload it to my github here, but, might need some help... but... unless I missed anything... this is... well... everything... protocols, utils, drivers, fonts, applications, probably some old stuff not useful anymore, but... it's everything. |
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All archives have been uploaded to my github at: https://github.com/reaperx7/xlibre_extras For retrieval purposes. Archives are taken from releases only, not git, svn, or cvs clones. |
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Forked your repo as a backup :) |
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There are still many libraries and other projects like pixman, the fonts, protocols, info systems, and so on that are still under FreeDesktop's control.
Are these going to be forked out as well for xlibre?
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