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Posted at 2022-10-19 by @thyttan I enabled it when connected to my personal app loader. Does that work or should I connect to the official app loader? Posted at 2022-10-19 by rigrig Awesome, nice to see this added as opt-in without nag banners. Does this work from custom app stores? i.e. can I just enable it in my personal store, or should I visit the official loader to make my watch count? Posted at 2022-10-19 by HughB This sounds great. Posted at 2022-10-19 by PeerDavid Thats great! Posted at 2022-10-20 by @gfwilliams
Well, the reporting should work in custom app stores. The initial plan was that the info would be loaded like the However I could make that URL configurable so it'd be a one-line change in your app loader to use the banglejs.com file Posted at 2022-10-20 by rigrig
No need to bother on my account, I'm happy to look at the list on the official store. Posted at 2022-10-21 by RaoulDuke Maybe enable it by default? I have no idea how many people just use their Bangle without developing for it, but most of those probably never read this forum and won´t change their app loader settings. I really don´t see a privacy problem with this. Posted at 2022-10-21 by @thyttan When does it upload app analytics? On connecting the watch, on toggling app analytics on, on installing/removing apps, on favoriting/unfavoriting apps? Posted at 2022-10-21 by @gfwilliams
Maybe later I will (or have a popup at first start), but right now I just want to be sure not to annoy people. Some people are militantly anti-tracking and while I don't track, they won't like the thought of any info leaving their PC
Pretty much all of the above - whenever stuff changes Posted at 2022-10-21 by user140377 ...I hate tracking AND popups Posted at 2022-10-21 by Mi I very much appreciate you caring about privacy and thinking about it from the get go. That said, knowing your intents and pseudonomisation I am happy to provide data here. I did turn on, re-connected, then off again. Not sure though if that was enough (guess so from your ">Pretty much all of the above") What I personally would like most is a button: "Send now" (which could be annotated with explanation of what data, how anonymized and how used). Posted at 2022-10-26 by @gfwilliams Thanks! Looks like we're up to around 25 reports at the moment, so at least when I add the code for it, we should be starting to get some semi-useful info Posted at 2022-10-26 by @halemmerich How about asking the user with an additional toggle in the device choosing dialog on first use of the apploader? I think the pseudonym is good enough for default activation, but I fully understand the reasoning behind making it opt-in. Posted at 2022-10-26 by @gfwilliams
That's a good point - it's one less window :) Posted at 2022-11-23 by user140377 Gordon just "admitted" that there are 6k BangleJS2 in the wild: Posted at 2022-11-24 by @gfwilliams
That's interesting! I should remove that restriction and just ensure that 'Install Favourites' installs them by default anyway :) But yes, there's still a way to go but it's great to have the input from that many people - I've found it helpful when thinking about what watch faces to add features to like fast load Posted at 2022-11-24 by dapgo Using Favorite is good way to avoid risks or a trial&error installing process with its associated time consuming. I missed the "favorite" filter when I was new with bangle.js. Now I find interesting the "New" filter and give a chance to new apps. To be even more perfect I just miss a page for feedback (considering privacy), so users can give opinion and even tips. (inspiration from Firefox addons page) Posted at 2022-11-24 by @thyttan I feel like this is covered to a pretty large extent already with the forum and the github issue tracker. But you're prabably right there's some resistance for some users using either of those two options. Posted at 2022-11-24 by @gfwilliams
I think maybe a link to a specialised filter for GitHub issues might be a good idea. I deliberately avoided feedback in the app loader as then I have to think about spam, moderation, and what happens when a developer says "I fixed this bug, now manually delete all the comments that reference it" :) Posted at 2022-11-24 by dapgo
I agree with a separating feedback from the installing function, but maybe having a link to the github filtered result. By "feedback" i was referring more to personal opinions or functional analysis, focused more in end-users than in issues/technical feedback as bugs or feature demands focused on developers. In fact i just realized that my example (reviews page of firefox addon) lacks of a version number field (btw google play reviews lacks of it too), and imo it is must to have info. Through fields and filters I am sure that Github can manage this review info :) Posted at 2022-11-25 by @gfwilliams If someone wants to look into this and do a PR that'd be great. I guess we could use GitHub discussions and have a thread per app... Posted at 2022-11-26 by user140377
Would be nice. Currently I misuse the favorites to collect all apps I have installed that have an interface.html Posted at 2022-11-29 by fanoushs-punching-bag nm Posted at 2022-11-29 by user140377
This is not surprising. The hrm on the Bangle only gets corrupted when you move. Most people do not move much while sleeping. |
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Posted at 2022-10-19 by @gfwilliams
Hi! I've just added an option to the app loader that allows it to send some very basic usage stats back to the banglejs.com server. It's under the
More...tab and currently defaults of 'Off':I've tried to implement this in the most privacy-focused way I can. An internal serial number on the Bangle is hashed with the MAC address and a single 32 bit number is returned to the app loader, and that is used to identify the installed apps. There's no way of figuring out a Bangle's MAC address from that number, and even if there was the number is sent to the server securely.
I'd really appreciate it if everyone that's happy to would enable it in their app loader. Then I can build up enough data that I can get the server to create a list of app popularity, and we can expose that in the app loader - letting users see which apps are used (as well as which are liked).
Hopefully it'll be a big benefit not just for users, but also for developers who can then see how much their apps are used and get a bit of motivation :)
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