diff --git a/pandas/core/frame.py b/pandas/core/frame.py
index ea91046f4b8e4..104557dd337fd 100644
--- a/pandas/core/frame.py
+++ b/pandas/core/frame.py
@@ -705,6 +705,7 @@ def __init__(
         if isinstance(data, DataFrame):
             data = data._mgr
             allow_mgr = True
+            dtype = None
             if not copy:
                 # if not copying data, ensure to still return a shallow copy
                 # to avoid the result sharing the same Manager
diff --git a/pandas/core/series.py b/pandas/core/series.py
index a197886748bce..7f59989701656 100644
--- a/pandas/core/series.py
+++ b/pandas/core/series.py
@@ -445,6 +445,7 @@ def __init__(
                     "compound dtype.  Use DataFrame instead."
                 )
         elif isinstance(data, Series):
+            dtype = None
             if index is None:
                 index = data.index
                 data = data._mgr.copy(deep=False)