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archive/_21ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ_3Apolkadot.io/index.html

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<h1>#graypaper:polkadot.io</h1>
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<p><a href='room_log.txt'>⇩ plaintext</a> · <a href='../../'>⇦ all rooms</a></p>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$G0deSwnlYlCrSn5lIFL__hi6bgWVITql5VyahU4bzpI'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$G0deSwnlYlCrSn5lIFL__hi6bgWVITql5VyahU4bzpI' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$G0deSwnlYlCrSn5lIFL__hi6bgWVITql5VyahU4bzpI' target='_blank'>2024-04-17 20:29</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#da6aa2'>syed</span>: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/!hyzRkDqDthePbodYFz:parity.io/$f_DMsIEcDXZegw6Sabnehzc-LrdDQkmq5MbxDDyoZxY?via=parity.io&amp;via=web3.foundation" rel="noopener" target="_blank">https://matrix.to/#/!hyzRkDqDthePbodYFz:parity.io/$f_DMsIEcDXZegw6Sabnehzc-LrdDQkmq5MbxDDyoZxY?via=parity.io&amp;via=web3.foundation</a>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$rb5cBpJRq7yJ8tmij7gcoyRR3M6IeA3D_UtcBztX7jk'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$rb5cBpJRq7yJ8tmij7gcoyRR3M6IeA3D_UtcBztX7jk' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$rb5cBpJRq7yJ8tmij7gcoyRR3M6IeA3D_UtcBztX7jk' target='_blank'>2025-06-03 15:55</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#bc5896'>greywolve</span>: Yeah that makes complete sense</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$ZmbJIZcC98y84KqNiS62xkcu25Wkta0RUp_yjU8X2Us'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$ZmbJIZcC98y84KqNiS62xkcu25Wkta0RUp_yjU8X2Us' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$ZmbJIZcC98y84KqNiS62xkcu25Wkta0RUp_yjU8X2Us' target='_blank'>2025-06-03 15:55</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#4036ac'>ascriv</span>: Oh. Yeah not the keys </div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$dqJFnmspK0ig0ZCGjdzvYQO1NjFusbDxmJp3y9XToRc'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$dqJFnmspK0ig0ZCGjdzvYQO1NjFusbDxmJp3y9XToRc' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$dqJFnmspK0ig0ZCGjdzvYQO1NjFusbDxmJp3y9XToRc' target='_blank'>2025-06-03 15:55</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#bc5896'>greywolve</span>: You shouldn&#x27;t ever need to deserialize keys , 100%</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$A7hFtTU4S09XXDWw3sN4mJaka7T93pm0xydg8KJAmJY'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$A7hFtTU4S09XXDWw3sN4mJaka7T93pm0xydg8KJAmJY' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$A7hFtTU4S09XXDWw3sN4mJaka7T93pm0xydg8KJAmJY' target='_blank'>2025-06-04 15:27</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#788ad5'>yu2c</span>: I came across two related definitions:
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B, defined as <a href="https://graypaper.fluffylabs.dev/#/7e6ff6a/178300178300?v=0.6.7" rel="noopener" target="_blank">a service-indexed commitment to the accumulation output</a>, and
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θ ( theta ), currently defined as <a href="https://graypaper.fluffylabs.dev/#/7e6ff6a/0f08020f2102?v=0.6.7" rel="noopener" target="_blank">the block’s accumulation-output sequence</a>.
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I initially thought they referred to the same thing( sequence ), but I noticed that B is defined as a set while θ is defined as a sequence.
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Am I missing some distinction here, or are they meant to serve different purposes despite the similarity?</div>

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2025-06-03 15:55 greywolve: You shouldn't ever need to deserialize keys , 100%
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B, defined as [a service-indexed commitment to the accumulation output](https://graypaper.fluffylabs.dev/#/7e6ff6a/178300178300?v=0.6.7), and
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θ ( theta ), currently defined as [the block’s accumulation-output sequence](https://graypaper.fluffylabs.dev/#/7e6ff6a/0f08020f2102?v=0.6.7).
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I initially thought they referred to the same thing( sequence ), but I noticed that B is defined as a set while θ is defined as a sequence.
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Am I missing some distinction here, or are they meant to serve different purposes despite the similarity?

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