FrankenPHP?

[RadekHavelka]

Hi, i wonder, does Phalcon play along with FrankenPHP? Can it be run, and can it bring additional performance gains?

[Jeckerson]

According to quick start I might assume that yes, it might work.

[niden]

https://frankenphp.dev/docs/docker/#how-to-install-more-php-extensions

This is the how-to. As for the actual performance gain or not, I am not sure. Someone needs to benchmark it.

[ludow]

We are currently testing its implementation, hoping for improved performance and, above all, scalability compared to php-fpm.

It seems to work in classic mode but not in worker mode. This would require an intermediate runtime on this model (https://github.com/php-runtime/runtime). But to be honest, I lack knowledge on the functioning of Phalcon and time to push the worker experiment a little further.

[elcreator]

I added popular benchmark https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r23&test=plaintext compatible benchmarking code here with Swoole PR https://github.com/phalcon/bridge-swoole/pull/9/files
According to this benchmark (with other frameworks) Swoole ranks way higher than FrankenPHP but both of them are worse than ngx_php (experimental nginx extension supporting PHP8.3 with some limitations https://github.com/rryqszq4/ngx-php?tab=readme-ov-file#Whats-different-with-official-php ).
Same result from another benchmark (for Laravel) https://github.com/pronskiy/ngx-php_laravel
Another option is Roadrunner (I googled Phalcon integration https://github.com/kcloze/phalcon-roadrunner but not tested it) which also beats FrankenPHP according to the last benchmark.
UPD: modern version of FrankenPHP tested with Laravel outperforms Swoole and Roadrunner https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/laravel-12-performance-face-off-2025-frankenphp-roadrunner-roque-4rnrf/

[tuannguyen29]

i have deployed frankenphp + phalcon + docker.
i share my repo here, you can try it
Github repo: https://github.com/tuannguyen29/frankenphp-and-phalconphp

[hostaway-greg]

Did you check if in worker mode, Di is re-using controllers somehow? I am experimenting with Franken and have a quite big application running now, I am tracking potential memory leaks or situations where one request is affecting another. I have set up everything and I have a break point in lambda in set on the di for the controller. Unfortunately, it looks like controller is created only once. Even If I inspect services after serving the request, I see that controller is resolved, not shared. But the next request to the same worker does not create a new instance of the controller.

[hostaway-greg]

Dammit. It does return shared instance:

cphalcon/ext/phalcon/dispatcher/abstractdispatcher.zep.c

Line 552 in 7a3b54d

ZEPHIR_CALL_METHOD(&handler, &container, "getshared", &_30, 0, &handlerClass);

@niden Is there a way to unset a service from a container? I understand that controllers should be shared BUT in shared memory model I would prefer to have a way to remove created instance somehow... We could then have a "reset" method that would remove stuff from the container once the request is done.

[niden]

You can try remove() from the DI container. That will remove the shared instance. Sadly not ideal but should allow you to move forward with this

[GrzegorzDrozd]

You can try remove() from the DI container. That will remove the shared instance. Sadly not ideal but should allow you to move forward with this

But I would have to add definition again, right ?

[niden]

It seems that way. What you really want is to remove the shared object stored in the internal array so that it can be created again, which we do not have :/

Another alternative would be to create a new DI class that extends the Phalcon one and has one method that will remove the object from the shared instances array only.

[elcreator]

Best thing is with FrankenPHP v6 Phalcon may be compilable again -

frankenphp build --embed vendor/phalcon/phalcon

[GrzegorzDrozd]

I am using FrankenPHP right now with Phalcon 5.6 :) Almost all PHP extensions are compatible with FrankenPHP.