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title: PLUG Committee Meeting 2024-07-16
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date: 2024-07-16
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## 0. Opening
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* Meeting opened by Nick at 19:54 PM
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* VENUE: Online
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* Present: JamesH, NickB, DanB, BenjaminIDS
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* Apologies: Niall (resigned)
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* Absent: Lochy
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* Guest:
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* `bbb-2021` server needed a restart
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* backup was `mumble.plug.org.au`
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## 1. Confirmation of Previous Minutes
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* https://www.plug.org.au/events/committee/2024/05-21/
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* https://plugorgau.github.io/events/committee/2024/05-21/
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* https://plugorgau.github.io/events/committee/2024/06-18/
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* Proposed by James, seconded by Dan. Passed.
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## 2. Next Committee Meeting
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* Tuesday 2024-08-20T18:30 , in person
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* VENUE: James' place
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## 3. Reports & Standing Items
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* Recruiting/co-opting more committee members: see Correspondence
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* and/or general meeting?
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* GM may not be warranted if we get some extras
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* GM would probably have to be no sooner than October, which would be 3 months to January
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* Ben finishing study in 2024-09, so may not be in most events until graduating
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* Financial Situation
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* Balances:
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* Cash box (at Sarah's)
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* Banking done, $198.95 current, $598.95 at start of 2024
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* Business Debit Card
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* $94.82
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* Bank Balance
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* $3212.25
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* About time to renew our standing motion authority to top-up the transaction account with debit card access - raise the target?
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* Membership Situation as of 2024-03-19
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- ? new members, ? returned, ? renewals
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- Need to nudge new attendees towards formal financial membership
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- Current Paid Members 26, was 25 at AGM
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- Expired Members 333, was 332 at AGM
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- Members on meetup.com 605, was 472 at AGM
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* Correspondance
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* Interest in PLUG committee co-option
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```
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:02:04 +0800
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From: Harry McNally <[email protected]>
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To: PLUG Committee <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [plug-ctte] Your PLUG Membership is Expiring
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```
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```
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:38:39 +0200 (CEST)
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To: Committee <[email protected]>
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Subject: [plug-ctte] Committee - Expression of interest
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```
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* MOTION: Co-opt Harry McNally and Michael Collins to the PLUG committee
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* Proposed by Ben, seconded by James. Passed unanimously.
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* Next meeting: Review committee roles
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## 4. Events Status
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* Review of recent events:
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* July 2024
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* Second Tuesday 2024-07-09
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* Ops meeting, social chat
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* Second Sunday 2024-07-14 PLUG+POSH
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* Upcoming events:
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* July 2024
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* PLUG-in-the-Pub Wednesday 2024-07-24: Brotzeit
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* Joondalup Lakeside Shopping City, 420 Joondalup Drive Joondalup WA 6027
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* https://www.joondalupbrotzeit.com.au/
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* 18:00 start (but happy hour is available, 16:00--17:00)
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* August 2024
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* Second Sunday 2024-08-11 PLUG+POSH
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* Second Tuesday 2024-08-13
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* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
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* Roundtable/panel style meetings? plus a shared hedgedoc/hackmd doc, like the focus-on-privacy 2022-07-12 (https://demo.hedgedoc.org/ej7SEkdMT6iop8QgRePtcA)
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* (Broad focus is good, something most people can have an opinion on)
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* Seed the agenda document with background
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* Possible topics:
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* AI
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* Convince me that macOS is better than Linux
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* E2EE
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* NixOS vs GUIX
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* D.E.I. in Free Software
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* Show and tell: Development environments: e.g. VSCode / EMACS / Vim / NeoVIM configurations
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* Free Software news
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* ...?
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* 11 August 2024
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Harry and Nick during HACK Day at Artifactory proposed that Tuesday Riff/SpaceCubed would cbe confirmed as an infrastructure meeting with a specifc task to set up unlimited mailman access for PLUG members.The event will be advertised to encourage members to attend so they can reset passwords and learn about using mailman.
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This Tuesday the Riff/Spacecubed event will be an infrastructure event
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* September 2024
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* Second Sunday 2024-09-08 PLUG+POSH
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* Second Tuesday 2024-09-10
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* Infra workshop/busybee?
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* PLUG-in-the-Pub
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* piratebar.com.au is closed permanently! :(
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* Let's go to Darling Darling/Fremantle West pubs
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* https://visitfremantle.com.au/darling-darling-0
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* Tuesday 2024-09-17: cheap [email protected] ?
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* Close to: ITLAPD Thursday 2024-09-19, https://digitalfreedoms.org/sfd
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* October 2024
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* Second Tuesday 2024-10-08
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* ACTION: James: Check JasperG's schedule?
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* General meeting? 3 months to AGM
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* MOTION: Hold a general meeting on Second Tuesday 2024-10-08
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* Proposed by Nick, seconded by Dan. Passed unanimously.
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* Maybe agenda: continue meetup.com ? other services? Sponsorship?
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* Second Sunday 2024-10-13 PLUG+POSH
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* November 2024
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* Second Sunday 2024-11-10 PLUG+POSH
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* Second Tuesday 2024-11-12
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* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
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* https://dddperth.com/ , Saturday 2024-11-16
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* PLUG-in-the-Pub
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* Might be due for a central? maybe Hygge Bar?
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* December 2024
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* Second Sunday 2024-12-08 Xmas BBQ + PLUG+POSH ?
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* Special invite, past committee&friends
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* January 2025
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* Second Sunday 2025-01-12 PLUG+POSH
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* Second Tuesday 2025-01-14 AGM
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* Monday 2025-01-20 -- Wednesday 2025-01-22 https://2025.everythingopen.au/
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* Adelaide Convention Centre, North Tce 5000, https://adelaidecc.com.au/
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* https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024557.html
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* PLUG-in-the-Pub
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* Future talks?
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* JasperG is up for an informal or panel style "presentation", as of 2024-06-11,17
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* Linux gaming: Portal: Story of Mel native vs Proton?
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* Margaret: EMACS-based UIs for database applications (not until 2023)
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* Yuchen: Haskell-code-explorer (unlikely to be ready in 2023)
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* Locutus: Ian Clarke (Contact)
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* Aidan - Graphics work (Confirm Sat 2024-01-20) (Not at this stage)
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* Other event info moved here for non actionable items. https://hackmd.io/O85j6jvpR8SlIKln1UD_AQ
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## 5. General Business & Matters Arising
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* ACTION: Event promotion: team effort - see previous minutes for details, e.g. https://github.com/plugorgau/plugorgau.github.io/blob/master/content/minutes/2021-05-18-minutes.md#5-general-business--matters-arising
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* Meetup/Google calendar
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* `Matt Richardson <[email protected]>` ACTION: Promote relevant events on events.raspberrypi.com , need "Raspberry Pi ID"
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* facebook?
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* X?
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* Benjamin: Willing to post PLUG posters
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* meetup.com , expecting invoice from Artifactory
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* Price has gone up to $265/6 months (USD$44.99/month, USD$178.99/6 months, USD$299.99/12 months)
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* https://www.meetup.com/blog/new-organizer-pricing-key-improvements/
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* New treasurer required, Sarah stepping down as per email dated 2024-06-12
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* Acting Treasurer: Nick
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* S10.8, committee can appoint (co-opt) members to fill casual vacancies
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* ACTION: James to ask on mailing list for expressions of interest - done!
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* Benjamin (Wings) requested that we shut down the `edison` Digital Ocean droplet
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* Just wants to get it off his billing, but more than happy to give like 30 days grace.
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* ACTION: Nick: Question: Can we pay the bill in the meantime?
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* Wings: happy to offer as many VMs as we want on Riff Labs
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* ACTION: BenjaminIDS: ask Wings: can we get an IP? for DNS hosting, mumble? done!
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* answer: yes!
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* ACTION: XXX: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (was this BenjaminA's new address?)
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* Who/what/where to contact next?
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* https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/ , "Perth Linux User Group" ABN 58233849580
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* 2021 was President's address
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* Bank using Treasurer's address
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* TODO: Create a GovID (not a personal one)
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* New reporting requirements for tax-exempt not-for-profit organisations.
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* https://www.ato.gov.au/Non-profit/Newsroom/General/Straight-from-the-source---August-2022/
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* ACTION: XXX to fill in online form
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* https://associations.commerce.wa.gov.au/
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* Reports done up to 2023, next will be due post-AGM-2024-01
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* Can we create a [PayID](https://payid.com.au/) for the PLUG bank account? This would be less error prone than typing the BSB + account number. We could create PayIDs for committee email address and maybe also ABN.
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* http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/private/committee/2021-June/010370.html
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* Ask Bendigo Bank again, post-AGM-2024
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* https://www.bendigobank.com.au/ways-to-bank/real-time-payments/using-payid
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* Interesting bearing accounts: only 1.45% at Bendigo, others have it at 5%+
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* aws.amazon.com
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* Bill due first few days of each month
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* ACTION: (late 2023?) Niall/Nick: Contact Developer Marketing Manager for an event speaker+swag: quiz
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* Plan is for PLUG to take over digitalocean.com bill directly: see below
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- ACTION: Grants: AV? Linux Australia? Lotterywest? Commercial sponsors?
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- https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024561.html
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- Ephemeral BBB instance, e.g. https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/gl/m-s-e73-zvh-5hy but with our own single-meeting build, run&record, download and teardown workflow
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- update mailing lists: moderators
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- admin/committee busybee items: get people using bulk actions on mailing lists
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* ACTION: Domain renewal is due again: plug.org.au: done!
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* All agreed for the bill to be paid under the standing cloud expenses
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* Accidentally paid twice, Tim@2024-06-29 says: credit is good for next year
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* ACTION: Nick: Reply
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## 6. New General Business
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- Stocktake of our Pi gear and quiz prizes
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- quiz this year or not? car rally? movie outing?
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- Recent memberships/renewals: all timely processed?
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- Current members mailing list: tested and able
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to be preloaded with a list of current financial members?
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- Minutes: published and deployed to the website
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- Mailman as a member service .. howto ?
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- Committee handover
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- Bank
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- ACTION: James: Update signatories, add James: CBD branch, early 2024-06?
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- ACTION: Add PayID
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- ACTION: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (N.B. BenjaminA's new address)
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- [ABN Search](https://www.abn.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=58233849580) shows current address at postcode 6153
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- ACTION: XX: Set AWS address
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- Membership processing
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## 7. Meeting closed by Nick at 10:01

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