Modify Python embeddable to include get-pip.py

[blueprintarchitect]

Feature or enhancement

Proposal:

The embeddable Windows ZIP package is extremely useful for portable apps and offline deployments.
However, it lacks both pip and get-pip.py, which creates significant friction for users who want to use the embeddable version in a modern Python workflow.
The embeddable package is designed to be minimal, including get-pip.py would make it far more functional without significantly increasing the package size. Users could then easily install pip improving accessibility for tools that are not easily deployable without a Python installation and don't work well or at all when frozen(e.g. Streamlit or educational scenarios).

Proposed enhancement:
Include the latest get-pip.py in the root of the ZIP archive (or in Tools/ or Scripts/) and provide a mechanism to:

1. modify the python.pth file to enable import site (at the moment the code is there but commented)
2. install pip using get-pip

Thank you for considering this quality-of-life improvement!

Has this already been discussed elsewhere?

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Links to previous discussion of this feature:

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[eli-schwartz]

However, it lacks both pip and get-pip.py, which creates significant friction for users who want to use the embeddable version in a modern Python workflow.
The embeddable package is designed to be minimal, including get-pip.py would make it far more functional without significantly increasing the package size. Users could then easily install pip improving accessibility for tools that are not easily deployable without a Python installation and don't work well or at all when frozen(e.g. Streamlit or educational scenarios).

I don't see how you conclude this. The embeddable package is a 21mb extracted package in a 10mb zip file. get-pip.py is 2.2mb, and the ensurepip module is 1.8 mb. Both ensurepip and get-pip.py include the same full copy of pip itself (as a pre-compressed zipfile!).

If ensurepip was seen as too big compared to the value it brings to users of the embeddable install, then I fail to see how get-pip.py would be any different.

[zooba]

The embeddable Windows ZIP package is extremely useful for portable apps and offline deployments.

Perhaps, but you're using it off-label. We won't be changing it to be a portable or offline distribution.

When used as a dependency of an embedding app, you should also have a regular Python install (of the same version) handy in case you need to build or install anything. But when you redistribute your app, your users don't need to get the regular Python install.