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  • package provide common utility API used by all CamX components
  • Contains shared utilities and helper code used across multiple CamX modules.
  • Provides common functionality such as logging, basic data structures, and configuration handling.
  • Helps reduce duplication by centralizing generic logic that does not belong to any single feature.
  • Offers small, focused components that can be reused without pulling in heavy dependencies.

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I reviewed the first recipe. Please apply that to all recipes in the PR

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SUMMARY = "Qualcomm camera core driver and pipeline related libraries"
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Please write a proper commit message. Describe your design decisions, issues, etc. It should be a text, rather than a bullet list.

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This is still not addressed.

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SUMMARY = "Qualcomm camera core driver and pipeline related libraries"
DESCRIPTION = "Collection of prebuilt libraries to support camera downstream functionality."
LICENSE = "CLOSED"
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Please add a proper license. It should actual use and distribution terms.

SRC_URI = "https://qartifactory-edge.qualcomm.com/artifactory/qsc_releases/software/chip/component/camx.qclinux.0.0/251120/prebuilt_yocto/${BPN}_${PV}_armv8-2a.tar.gz;subdir=${BPN}-${PV}"
SRC_URI[sha256sum] = "c0b2f23c0c87df6b113466b83948cf2baf80b38492e1899984193108a0bab8e3"

DEPENDS += "camxfirmware fastrpc protobuf-native protobuf protobuf-native libxml2 virtual/egl virtual/libgles2"
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No, libs don't depend on the firmware. Especially not at the build time.

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Please break into more commits, one single commit adding a bunch of recipes is not ideal.

@gkhose-qipl gkhose-qipl force-pushed the camx_downstream branch 2 times, most recently from 64768be to 78cfd3c Compare November 20, 2025 20:39
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SUMMARY = "Qualcomm camera development related libraries, binary"
DESCRIPTION = "Collection of prebuilt libraries to support camera downstream functionality."
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Summary and description for most recipes are quite similar here, you should make it cover just this component (explain why it exists).

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Like, what chicdk even means?

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DESCRIPTION = "Collection of prebuilt libraries to support camera downstream functionality."
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Need proper license.

Also add NOTICE (from the tarball) in LIC_FILES_CHKSUM.

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lumag commented Nov 21, 2025

Please. Test your changes before sending the PR. Building camxlib package fails with a lot of QA errors. I don't want to review nor test the half-backed solutions.

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lumag commented Nov 21, 2025

Also, please fix your build system:

..... in package camxlib doesn't have GNU_HASH

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On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way.
Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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SUMMARY = "Qualcomm camera common utility API used by camera driver"
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This package includes files under /usr/lib/qcs9100/. Why are they a part of this package? Why is it split from camxlib?

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Also, we are definitely going to have several other versions of camx-something. Please name all packages according to platforms they support.

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These comments were totally ignored.

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@gkhose-qipl gkhose-qipl changed the title camx: add camera userspace libs camxcommon: package provide common utility API used by all CamX components Nov 22, 2025
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Please fix all review comments instead of fixing them one by one.

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lumag commented Nov 25, 2025

On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way. Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way. Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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recipe name : qcm6490 target
camxlib-v1_1.0.1.bb
camx-v1_1.0.1.bb
chicdk-v1_1.0.1.bb

lib path
/usr/lib/camxv1/qcm6490

recipe name : qcs9100, qcs8300, qcs615, upcoming targets...
camxcommon-v2_1.0.1.bb
camxlib-v2_1.0.1.bb
camx-v2_1.0.1.bb
chicdk-v2_1.0.1.bb

lib path
/usr/lib/camxv2/qcs9100
/usr/lib/camxv2/qcs8300
/usr/lib/camxv2/qcs615

Proposal : Could you please review proposal and update comments. For now looking for exception in the current form, As part of qcs615 enablement (end of Jan), this will be fixed as per proposal alignment

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lumag commented Nov 25, 2025

On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way. Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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recipe name : qcm6490 target camxlib-v1_1.0.1.bb camx-v1_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v1_1.0.1.bb

lib path /usr/lib/camxv1/qcm6490

recipe name : qcs9100, qcs8300, qcs615, upcoming targets... camxcommon-v2_1.0.1.bb camxlib-v2_1.0.1.bb camx-v2_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v2_1.0.1.bb

lib path /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs9100 /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs8300 /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs615

Proposal : Could you please review proposal and update comments. For now looking for exception in the current form, As part of qcs615 enablement (end of Jan), this will be fixed as per proposal alignment

How does one go from the platform name to v1 /v2 / etc? Especially since it is not related to any other version nor to the hardware block.

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lumag commented Nov 25, 2025

Proposal : Could you please review proposal and update comments. For now looking for exception in the current form, As part of qcs615 enablement (end of Jan), this will be fixed as per proposal alignment

Also, why do you need more and more exceptions? Why can't the work be done properly from the beginning?

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lumag commented Nov 25, 2025

On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way. Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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recipe name : qcm6490 target camxlib-v1_1.0.1.bb camx-v1_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v1_1.0.1.bb
lib path /usr/lib/camxv1/qcm6490
recipe name : qcs9100, qcs8300, qcs615, upcoming targets... camxcommon-v2_1.0.1.bb camxlib-v2_1.0.1.bb camx-v2_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v2_1.0.1.bb
lib path /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs9100 /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs8300 /usr/lib/camxv2/qcs615
Proposal : Could you please review proposal and update comments. For now looking for exception in the current form, As part of qcs615 enablement (end of Jan), this will be fixed as per proposal alignment

How does one go from the platform name to v1 /v2 / etc? Especially since it is not related to any other version nor to the hardware block.

Last, but not least, why do we need extra level of subdirs? I like the current proposal of ${libdir}/${SoC}, it makes at least some sense.

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On top of everything. Please rename the packages in a sensible way. Instead of -kt use -kodiak. Likewise add sensible suffix to qcs9100-related packages.

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recipe name : qcm6490 target camxlib-v1_1.0.1.bb camx-v1_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v1_1.0.1.bb

lib path /usr/lib/camxv1/qcm6490

recipe name : qcs9100, qcs8300, qcs615, upcoming targets... camxcommon-v2_1.0.1.bb camxlib-v2_1.0.1.bb camx-v2_1.0.1.bb chicdk-v2_1.0.1.bb

v1 and v2 with the same versions? Makes no sense to me.

Is this supposed to be aligned for a certain family of socs? Can you describe what v1 and v2 actually means?

- package provide common utility API used by all CamX components
- Provides common functionality such as logging, basic data structures, and configuration handling.
- Helps reduce duplication by centralizing generic logic that does not belong to any single feature.
- Offers small, focused components that can be reused without pulling in heavy dependencies.

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camxv1 and camxv2 are 2 different camera stack camxv1 support qcm6490, camxv2 support qcs9100, qcs8300 , qcs615 and new chipset on camxv2.

so we thought of having v1 and v2 in recipe name and as suggested by @lumag we can install libs at ${libdir}/${SoC}

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lumag commented Nov 26, 2025

camxv1 and camxv2 are 2 different camera stack camxv1 support qcm6490, camxv2 support qcs9100, qcs8300 , qcs615 and new chipset on camxv2.

so we thought of having v1 and v2 in recipe name and as suggested by @lumag we can install libs at ${libdir}/${SoC}

Currently you provide only qcs9100 subdir in "camxv2" packages. How does it look for qcs8300 or qcs615? Will those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

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lumag commented Nov 26, 2025

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

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lumag commented Nov 26, 2025

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

So, no need for v1/v2/vN and we are settled with the names.

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

So, no need for v1/v2/vN and we are settled with the names.

we need to understand what could be the possible way to install path and recipe name.

  1. camera v2 support multiple SOC, few are binary compatible (qcs9100 and qcs8100)
  2. if there are different SOC how do we handle in binary compatible case (name of recipe, one recipe will install libs incase of binary compatible)
  3. number of recipes increase exponentially if we have soc specific recipes

LICENSE = "LICENSE.qcom-2"
LIC_FILES_CHKSUM = "file://${UNPACKDIR}/usr/share/doc/${PN}/NO.LOGIN.BINARY.LICENSE.QTI.pdf;md5=7a5da794b857d786888bbf2b7b7529c8"

SRC_URI = "https://qartifactory-edge.qualcomm.com/artifactory/qsc_releases/software/chip/component/camx.qclinux.0.0/${PBT_BUILD_DATE}/prebuilt_yocto/${BPN}_${PV}_armv8-2a.tar.gz"
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Okay... So, you did it again. Tarball changed, PV didn't. Could you please STOP doing that?

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Okay... So, you did it again. Tarball changed, PV didn't. Could you please STOP doing that?

For the base PR, we often see that the artifactory and SHA are updated even when there are no changes in the camxcommon recipe. However, if other recipes are modified, the SHA for all recipes also changes. Therefore, we need to update the SHA for all recipes whenever any changes occur. We were considering updating the version with every change once the base PR is merged. Would that be acceptable?

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There was no PR in my sentence. No recipes. Stop reusing tarball names. Ever. It breaks OE caching. It breaks other possible ways to cache things. It breaks my mind, when I download yet another tarball pointed out by the recipe's URL and then face several files with the same basename. If I or somebody else downloads the tarball, wraps it in deb, rpm, apk or any other package, processes something then reports you an error, how would you determine, which one of the 1.0.1 tarballs had an issue? The rule of thumb is very, very simple: new upload means new tag, new version, new tarball name. If the contents doesn't change, find the ways to create binary reproducible tarballs (yes, it is possible, there are flags for that). But there should never be two tarballs with the same name and with different checksums.

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Yeah, big NAK for tarball changes without any actual content change, it should at least be fully reproducible.

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There was no PR in my sentence. No recipes. Stop reusing tarball names. Ever. It breaks OE caching. It breaks other possible ways to cache things. It breaks my mind, when I download yet another tarball pointed out by the recipe's URL and then face several files with the same basename. If I or somebody else downloads the tarball, wraps it in deb, rpm, apk or any other package, processes something then reports you an error, how would you determine, which one of the 1.0.1 tarballs had an issue? The rule of thumb is very, very simple: new upload means new tag, new version, new tarball name. If the contents doesn't change, find the ways to create binary reproducible tarballs (yes, it is possible, there are flags for that). But there should never be two tarballs with the same name and with different checksums.

As each distribution brings their own GCC, GLIBC and other differences, can we use same binaries for ubuntu distributions?

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As each distribution brings their own GCC, GLIBC and other differences, can we use same binaries for ubuntu distributions?

It's called ABI compatibility. In 99.9 % of the cases the binary compiled with the older GCC against the older Glibc will work with the newer ones. So, a typical approach would be to select some balanced old baseline and test that the binaries built with it still work with the newest one.

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Commit message, commit subject, package name, summary, description... Nothing changes, no improvememtns. Could you please fix those items for once?

For the commit subject. Does 'foo: add foo' sound good to you? I'd say, too many 'camxcommon' in one line.

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lumag commented Nov 26, 2025

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

So, no need for v1/v2/vN and we are settled with the names.

we need to understand what could be the possible way to install path and recipe name.

  1. camera v2 support multiple SOC, few are binary compatible (qcs9100 and qcs8100)

Provide virtual packages if required.

  1. if there are different SOC how do we handle in binary compatible case (name of recipe, one recipe will install libs incase of binary compatible)

Compatibility of recipes or of the packages? I'd prefer having three separate recipes: kodiak, lemans+monaco and talos.

  1. number of recipes increase exponentially if we have soc specific recipes

Linarly, not exponentially. There is no exponential growth.

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

So, no need for v1/v2/vN and we are settled with the names.

we need to understand what could be the possible way to install path and recipe name.

  1. camera v2 support multiple SOC, few are binary compatible (qcs9100 and qcs8100)

Provide virtual packages if required.

  1. if there are different SOC how do we handle in binary compatible case (name of recipe, one recipe will install libs incase of binary compatible)

Compatibility of recipes or of the packages? I'd prefer having three separate recipes: kodiak, lemans+monaco and talos.

  1. number of recipes increase exponentially if we have soc specific recipes

Linarly, not exponentially. There is no exponential growth.

Compatibility of recipes or of the packages? I'd prefer having three separate recipes: kodiak, lemans+monaco and talos.

can we use camxv1, camxv2 , camxv3 for 3 different recipe names or can you help with some suggestion.

will check on virtual packages for (qcs9100 and qcs8300)

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  • package provide common utility API used by all CamX components
  • Contains shared utilities and helper code used across multiple CamX modules.
  • Provides common functionality such as logging, basic data structures, and configuration handling.
  • Helps reduce duplication by centralizing generic logic that does not belong to any single feature.
  • Offers small, focused components that can be reused without pulling in heavy dependencies.

Commit message, commit subject, package name, summary, description... Nothing changes, no improvememtns. Could you please fix those items for once?

For the commit subject. Does 'foo: add foo' sound good to you? I'd say, too many 'camxcommon' in one line.

We have tried to provide more descriptive commit messages. The discussion about the package name is still ongoing. I have added the summary and description, but could you clarify what exactly is expected for the summary and description?

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lumag commented Nov 26, 2025

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ill those targets reuse qcs9100 libs?

for qcs615 lib will be installed /usr/lib/qcs615

So, we logically have camx-kodiak, camx-monaco and camx-talos. Plus the overall camx frontend, selecting the correct implementation. Does that sound good?

Yes, for every chipset libs are different and install at SOC specific paths

So, no need for v1/v2/vN and we are settled with the names.

we need to understand what could be the possible way to install path and recipe name.

  1. camera v2 support multiple SOC, few are binary compatible (qcs9100 and qcs8100)

Provide virtual packages if required.

  1. if there are different SOC how do we handle in binary compatible case (name of recipe, one recipe will install libs incase of binary compatible)

Compatibility of recipes or of the packages? I'd prefer having three separate recipes: kodiak, lemans+monaco and talos.

  1. number of recipes increase exponentially if we have soc specific recipes

Linarly, not exponentially. There is no exponential growth.

Compatibility of recipes or of the packages? I'd prefer having three separate recipes: kodiak, lemans+monaco and talos.

can we use camxv1, camxv2 , camxv3 for 3 different recipe names or can you help with some suggestion.

Of course not. What do v1, v2, v3 mean? Some virtual internal branches. So, no, it's not acceptable.

will check on virtual packages for (qcs9100 and qcs8300)

hint: RPROVIDES

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  • package provide common utility API used by all CamX components
  • Contains shared utilities and helper code used across multiple CamX modules.
  • Provides common functionality such as logging, basic data structures, and configuration handling.
  • Helps reduce duplication by centralizing generic logic that does not belong to any single feature.
  • Offers small, focused components that can be reused without pulling in heavy dependencies.

Commit message, commit subject, package name, summary, description... Nothing changes, no improvememtns. Could you please fix those items for once?
For the commit subject. Does 'foo: add foo' sound good to you? I'd say, too many 'camxcommon' in one line.

We have tried to provide more descriptive commit messages. The discussion about the package name is still ongoing. I have added the summary and description, but could you clarify what exactly is expected for the summary and description?

Commit subject: what actually happens. `camxcommon: add libs common to foo, bar and baz'. Or 'used by foo, bar and baz'. Commit message: English text. Not a bullet list. Not a list of changes in the commit, we can read patches. Describe why it needs to be done and why it needs to be done this particular way.
Summary. It should be a one-line description of the package. Let's see "Qualcomm camera common utility API used by all CamX components". What does it tell me? Used by which components? Is it only for the Lemans or will it be common between the platforms? Again, why is it not a part of the main camx package? What's the difference? But okay, it is more of the topic for the description. This text (i.e. several sentences) should provide a more detailed description of the package. How does one tell, which CamX packages to install? Which recipes to use? Here it would be nice to explain what it is and why it is separated from the main camx lib package.

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Of course not. What do v1, v2, v3 mean? Some virtual internal branches. So, no, it's not acceptable.

so what can be good way to name recipe. camx-kodiak, camx-talos , camx-lemans-monaco?
if we have x,y,z target and all are binary compatible recipe name should be camx-x-y-z?

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Of course not. What do v1, v2, v3 mean? Some virtual internal branches. So, no, it's not acceptable.

so what can be good way to name recipe. camx-kodiak, camx-talos , camx-lemans-monaco? if we have x,y,z target and all are binary compatible recipe name should be camx-x-y-z?

if we need to use RPROVIDES , what should be recipe name ?
camx-lemans-monaco_1.0.1.bb
RPROVIDES:${PN} += "camx-qcs8100 camx-qcs9100"

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Of course not. What do v1, v2, v3 mean? Some virtual internal branches. So, no, it's not acceptable.

so what can be good way to name recipe. camx-kodiak, camx-talos , camx-lemans-monaco? if we have x,y,z target and all are binary compatible recipe name should be camx-x-y-z?

if we need to use RPROVIDES , what should be recipe name ? camx-lemans-monaco_1.0.1.bb RPROVIDES:${PN} += "camx-qcs8100 camx-qcs9100"

camx-lemans_1.0.1.bb, RPROVIDES:${PN} = "camx-monaco"

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lumag commented Nov 28, 2025

As a side note I'll probably ask to use codenames for SoC subdirs. We have had enough troubles and confusion about qcs6490 vs qcs6490 vs sc7280, qrb5165 vs sm8250, etc. Using the codenames removes the topic as it points out that this CamX works for all kodiak instances, no matter if it is compute, mobile, IoT or something else.

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As a side note I'll probably ask to use codenames for SoC subdirs. We have had enough troubles and confusion about qcs6490 vs qcs6490 vs sc7280, qrb5165 vs sm8250, etc. Using the codenames removes the topic as it points out that this CamX works for all kodiak instances, no matter if it is compute, mobile, IoT or something else.

Is the expectation described below correct, or do I need to update the approach?

  1. Recipe names: camx-kodiak, camx-lemans, camx-talos
  2. Installation paths: /usr/lib/qcm6490, /usr/lib/qcs9100, /usr/lib/qcs615
  3. The binary compatible libraries will be camx-lemans_1.0.1.bb, with RPROVIDES:${PN} = "camx-monaco", and since it's a virtual package, the libraries used will come from /usr/lib/qcs9100.

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