diff --git a/CHANGELOGS.rst b/CHANGELOGS.rst
index 02dfc4c0..f7c2bd8c 100644
--- a/CHANGELOGS.rst
+++ b/CHANGELOGS.rst
@@ -1,6 +1,11 @@
 Change Logs
 ===========
 
+0.7.1
++++++
+
+* :pr:`152`: add a function to compute fully dynamic shapes given any inputs
+
 0.7.0
 +++++
 
diff --git a/_doc/api/export/index.rst b/_doc/api/export/index.rst
index a46e7742..eeba2d35 100644
--- a/_doc/api/export/index.rst
+++ b/_doc/api/export/index.rst
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@ onnx_diagnostic.export
     :caption: modules
 
     dynamic_shapes
+    shape_helper
     validate
 
 CoupleInputsDynamicShapes
diff --git a/_doc/api/export/shape_helper.rst b/_doc/api/export/shape_helper.rst
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..78ccb5cd
--- /dev/null
+++ b/_doc/api/export/shape_helper.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
+
+onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper
+===================================
+
+.. automodule:: onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper
+    :members:
+    :no-undoc-members:
diff --git a/_doc/index.rst b/_doc/index.rst
index 11f3a9fc..a5e3b526 100644
--- a/_doc/index.rst
+++ b/_doc/index.rst
@@ -211,8 +211,9 @@ The function replaces dynamic dimensions defined as strings by
 ``torch.export.Dim.DYNAMIC``.
 
 Older versions
-++++++++++++++
+==============
 
+* `0.7.1 <../v0.7.1/index.html>`_
 * `0.7.0 <../v0.7.0/index.html>`_
 * `0.6.3 <../v0.6.3/index.html>`_
 * `0.5.0 <../v0.5.0/index.html>`_
diff --git a/_doc/recipes/plot_dynamic_shapes_what.py b/_doc/recipes/plot_dynamic_shapes_what.py
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..d0c5eefd
--- /dev/null
+++ b/_doc/recipes/plot_dynamic_shapes_what.py
@@ -0,0 +1,78 @@
+"""
+Builds dynamic shapes from any input
+====================================
+
+Getting dynamic shapes right for :func:`torch.export.export` when the inputs
+includes a custom class such as a :class:`transformers.cache_utils.DynamicCache`.
+:func:`torch.export.export` cannot use a DynamicCache filled with dynamic shapes
+but instead it uses a kind of unserialized serialized form of it.
+
+Standard inputs for a LLM with a dynamic cache
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+"""
+
+import pprint
+import torch
+from onnx_diagnostic import doc
+from onnx_diagnostic.helpers import string_type
+from onnx_diagnostic.helpers.cache_helper import make_dynamic_cache
+from onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper import all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs
+from onnx_diagnostic.torch_models.hghub import get_untrained_model_with_inputs
+from onnx_diagnostic.torch_export_patches import torch_export_patches
+
+bsize, nheads, slen, dim = 2, 1, 30, 96
+
+inputs = dict(
+    input_ids=torch.randint(15, size=(2, 3), dtype=torch.int64),
+    attention_mask=torch.randint(1, size=(2, 33), dtype=torch.int64),
+    position_ids=torch.arange(3, dtype=torch.int64),
+    past_key_values=make_dynamic_cache(
+        [(torch.randn(bsize, nheads, slen, dim), torch.randn(bsize, nheads, slen, dim))]
+    ),
+)
+
+print(string_type(inputs, with_shape=True))
+
+# %%
+# Function :func:`onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper.all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs`
+# produces the corresponding dynamic shapes assuming they are all dynamic.
+ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(inputs)
+pprint.pprint(ds)
+
+# %%
+# What about a StaticCache?
+# +++++++++++++++++++++++++
+#
+# We use :func:`onnx_diagnostic.torch_models.hghub.get_untrained_model_with_inputs` to get
+# a consistent configuration with a static cache.
+
+data = get_untrained_model_with_inputs(
+    "arnir0/Tiny-LLM",
+    model_kwargs=dict(cache_implementation="static"),
+    inputs_kwargs=dict(cls_cache="StaticCache"),
+)
+inputs = data["inputs"]
+print(string_type(inputs, with_shape=True))
+
+# %%
+# And the input shapes.
+ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(inputs)
+if ds["past_key_values"]:
+    print("transformers implemented serialization function for StaticCache.")
+else:
+    print("We need to use serialization function implemented in this package.")
+    with torch_export_patches(patch_transformers=True):
+        ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(inputs)
+
+# %%
+# That gives.
+pprint.pprint(ds)
+
+# %%
+# We can compare with the ones returned by the function.
+pprint.pprint(data["dynamic_shapes"])
+
+
+# %%
+
+doc.plot_legend("dynamic shapes\nfrom inputs", "dynamic shapes", "green")
diff --git a/_unittests/ut_export/test_shape_helper.py b/_unittests/ut_export/test_shape_helper.py
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..69c87399
--- /dev/null
+++ b/_unittests/ut_export/test_shape_helper.py
@@ -0,0 +1,46 @@
+import unittest
+import torch
+from onnx_diagnostic.ext_test_case import ExtTestCase, requires_transformers, requires_torch
+from onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper import all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs
+from onnx_diagnostic.torch_models.hghub import get_untrained_model_with_inputs
+
+
+class TestShapeHelper(ExtTestCase):
+    @requires_transformers("4.52")
+    @requires_torch("2.7.99")
+    def test_all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(self):
+        ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs((torch.randn((5, 6)), torch.randn((1, 6))))
+        self.assertEqual([{0: "d_0_0", 1: "d_0_1"}, {0: "d_1_0", 1: "d_1_1"}], ds)
+        ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(
+            (torch.randn((5, 6)), torch.randn((1, 6))), dim_prefix=torch.export.Dim.AUTO
+        )
+        self.assertEqual(
+            [
+                {0: torch.export.Dim.AUTO, 1: torch.export.Dim.AUTO},
+                {0: torch.export.Dim.AUTO, 1: torch.export.Dim.AUTO},
+            ],
+            ds,
+        )
+
+    @requires_transformers("4.52")
+    @requires_torch("2.7.99")
+    def test_all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs_dynamic_cache(self):
+        data = get_untrained_model_with_inputs("arnir0/Tiny-LLM")
+        print(self.string_type(data["inputs"], with_shape=True))
+        ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(data["inputs"])
+        self.assertEqual(
+            {
+                "input_ids": {0: "d_0_0", 1: "d_0_1"},
+                "attention_mask": {0: "d_1_0", 1: "d_1_1"},
+                "position_ids": {0: "d_2_0", 1: "d_2_1"},
+                "past_key_values": {
+                    "key_cache": [{0: "d_3_0", 1: "d_3_1", 2: "d_3_2", 3: "d_3_3"}],
+                    "value_cache": [{0: "d_4_0", 1: "d_4_1", 2: "d_4_2", 3: "d_4_3"}],
+                },
+            },
+            ds,
+        )
+
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+    unittest.main(verbosity=2)
diff --git a/onnx_diagnostic/__init__.py b/onnx_diagnostic/__init__.py
index 98abae93..bd37424e 100644
--- a/onnx_diagnostic/__init__.py
+++ b/onnx_diagnostic/__init__.py
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@
 Functions, classes to dig into a model when this one is right, slow, wrong...
 """
 
-__version__ = "0.7.0"
+__version__ = "0.7.1"
 __author__ = "Xavier Dupré"
diff --git a/onnx_diagnostic/export/shape_helper.py b/onnx_diagnostic/export/shape_helper.py
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..98c91025
--- /dev/null
+++ b/onnx_diagnostic/export/shape_helper.py
@@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
+from typing import Any, Set
+from ..helpers.cache_helper import flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes
+
+
+def all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(inputs: Any, dim_prefix: Any = "d") -> Any:
+    """
+    Returns the dynamic shapes for the given inputs.
+    All dimensions are considered as dynamic.
+    ``dim_prefix`` can be a string (the function uses it as a prefix),
+    or ``torch.export.Dim.AUTO`` or ``torch.export.Dim.DYNAMIC``.
+
+    .. runpython::
+        :showcode:
+
+        import pprint
+        import torch
+        from onnx_diagnostic.helpers.cache_helper import make_dynamic_cache
+        from onnx_diagnostic.export.shape_helper import all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs
+
+        bsize, nheads, slen, dim = 2, 1, 30, 96
+        inputs = dict(
+            input_ids=torch.randint(15, size=(2, 3), dtype=torch.int64),
+            attention_mask=torch.randint(1, size=(2, 33), dtype=torch.int64),
+            position_ids=torch.arange(3, dtype=torch.int64),
+            past_key_values=make_dynamic_cache(
+                [(torch.randn(bsize, nheads, slen, dim),
+                  torch.randn(bsize, nheads, slen, dim))]
+            ),
+        )
+        ds = all_dynamic_shape_from_inputs(inputs)
+        pprint.pprint(ds)
+    """
+    if isinstance(dim_prefix, str):
+        prefixes: Set[str] = set()
+
+        def tensor_to_shape(tensor):
+            n = len(prefixes)
+            p = f"{dim_prefix}_{n}"
+            prefixes.add(p)
+            return {i: f"{p}_{i}" for i in range(tensor.ndim)}
+
+    else:
+
+        def tensor_to_shape(tensor):
+            return {i: dim_prefix for i in range(tensor.ndim)}  # noqa: C420
+
+    return flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(
+        inputs, change_function=tensor_to_shape, use_dict=True
+    )
diff --git a/onnx_diagnostic/helpers/cache_helper.py b/onnx_diagnostic/helpers/cache_helper.py
index e37a1e2d..9b1ba31c 100644
--- a/onnx_diagnostic/helpers/cache_helper.py
+++ b/onnx_diagnostic/helpers/cache_helper.py
@@ -1,11 +1,15 @@
-from typing import Any, List, Tuple
+from typing import Any, Callable, List, Optional, Tuple
 import packaging.version as pv
 import torch
 import transformers
 import transformers.cache_utils
 
 
-def flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(obj: Any, use_dict: bool = False) -> Any:
+def flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(
+    obj: Any,
+    use_dict: bool = False,
+    change_function: Optional[Callable[[torch.Tensor], Any]] = None,
+) -> Any:
     """
     Returns the object in a different structure similar to what
     the definition of the dynamic shapes should use.
@@ -16,10 +20,12 @@ def flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(obj: Any, use_dict: bool = False) -> An
         the context gives the dictionary keys but it is not expressed
         in the dynamic shapes, these specifications seems to be different
         for the strict and non strict mode.
+    :param change_function: to modifies the tensor in the structure itself,
+        like replace them by a shape
     :return: the serialized object
     """
     if isinstance(obj, torch.Tensor):
-        return obj
+        return change_function(obj) if change_function else obj
     flat, spec = torch.utils._pytree.tree_flatten(obj)
     start = 0
     end = 0
@@ -27,7 +33,9 @@ def flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(obj: Any, use_dict: bool = False) -> An
     for subspec in spec.children_specs:
         end += subspec.num_leaves
         value = subspec.unflatten(flat[start:end])
-        value = flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(value, use_dict=use_dict)
+        value = flatten_unflatten_for_dynamic_shapes(
+            value, use_dict=use_dict, change_function=change_function
+        )
         subtrees.append(value)
         start = end
     if use_dict and (spec.type is dict or spec.context):