Confusion when deleting/moving to the recycle bin/emptying recycle bin/deleting from the recycle bin

[wtct]

Which Umbraco version are you using? (Please write the exact version, example: 10.1.0)

11.4.0

Bug summary

Hey all,

There are two cases of Deleting in the backoffice, as follows:

1. Moving to the Recycle Bin.
2. Deleting from the Recycle Bin.

We can move the node to the recycle bin in several ways by "Delete" button, as below:

When node is in the recycle bin then we can remove it by "Delete" button as well:

When you cooperate with editors, sometimes it could be really complicated to be on the same line with them.

Maybe there should be Remove and Delete verbs in the backoffice?

More related information about differences between removing and deleting could be found here:

https://adnanpuzic.medium.com/the-difference-between-remove-and-delete-7f6c1771e40f

cc: @piotrbach

Specifics

No response

Steps to reproduce

1. Try to move any node to the recycle bin.
2. Try to delete the same node from the recycle bin.

Expected result / actual result

No response

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[andr317c]

Hey!

Sounds like a good topic for a discussion, but it's not really a bug. I'll go ahead and transfer this to a discussion instead.

As always thanks for the feedback 😄