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meetings/2025/notes-2025-10-06.md

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# 6 October 2025 | MessageFormat Working Group Teleconference
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Attendees:
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- Eemeli Aro \- Mozilla (EAO)
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- Mihai Niță \- Google (MIH)
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- Shane Carr \- Google (SFC)
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- Richard Gibson \- OpenJSF (RGN)
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**Scribe:** MIH
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## Student work on MF2 at UiB
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EAO: Had a meeting last week MBH worked with some students on a JS localization library.
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## OASIS presentation: what’s new in XLIFF 2.2
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MIH: Public, posed on some LinkeIn groups and other places. I will have a link here.
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EAO: are you aware of any implementation of the plural-gender-select extension?
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MIH: no. I would expect Okapi to add something.
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## Updates from Implementers
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MIH: ICU4J: out, code freeze, at LDML 48 level, passes all tests in the official message-format repo
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MIH: ICU4C: code freeze, at LDML 47 level
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SFC: ICU4X: Zibi has some time and planning to look at it over the next couple of months
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EAO: The JS one is LDML 48 for a while now. I am considering making it 1.0
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## Default Attribute Definitions
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[https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/pull/1098](https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/pull/1098)
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MIH: I had some comments this morning, but not final, it was a rush job. I will add more.
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MIH: … lost a lot of the notes. I did some talking.
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MIH: would be maybe a good idea to put its2 tags in some kind of namespace.
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MIH: my main concern is “clogging” the message with all that information.
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Probably a better option is to have this outside the message. Either in the storage, or a big “meta info” block in the message (tbd how to do it compatible).
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## The :offset selector
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[https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/issues/1099](https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/issues/1099)
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EAO: can you file a PR adding the pre-calculated exact values?

meetings/2025/notes-2025-10-27.md

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# 27 October 2025 | MessageFormat Working Group Teleconference
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Attendees:
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- Eemeli Aro \- Mozilla (EAO)
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- Tim Chevalier \- Igalia (TIM)
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- Richard Gibson \- OpenJSF (RGN)
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**Scribe:** EAO
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## Updates from Implementers
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TIM: No updates on ICU4C.
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EAO: Intend to update JS later this week.
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## DOM Localization
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[https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/67](https://github.com/w3c/tpac2025-breakouts/issues/67)
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EAO: Please take look, see also the explainer from breakout session. This is rather direct follow-up from work here on MF2.
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## Advancing Drafts
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### u:locale
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EAO: This is optional as well as draft, but maybe it should be dropped completely, as requested by ICU4X – the use cases are likely to be pretty rare.
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### :datetime, :date, :time
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EAO: These are blocked on semantic skeletons not being final yet.
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TIM: SFC has also some additional concerns.
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### :currency
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EAO: This could be ready.
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TIM: I don’t see any issues about this.
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### :percent
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EAO: This might also be ready for final?
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### :unit
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EAO: This is definitely not yet ready; there are a number of open conversations about this.
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## Default Attribute Definitions
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[https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/pull/1098](https://github.com/unicode-org/message-format-wg/pull/1098)
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EAO: Let’s discuss more later.

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