[Business Model] How vike make money and having plan for long term support products - Serious questions #1932
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Hi, Vike's team; I will straightforwardly explain the problems I want to clarify to make it easier to decide on them. Remember that I'm not a personal attack here; I want to be clearer for me or anyone who can make the right decision for us and the community.
Thank you for reading the long long sentence here. Really appreciate the Vike team creating great tools 🙏. If everything becomes clearer, and that will benefit me in the future for enterprise apps, I will pick Vike for cross-team in my company, and I am willing to pay if Vike has a lot of benefits for us, which another framework can't. |
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We do expect a drop in user adoption, but we aren't interested in building the next gratis framework. We want to build a framework that systematically solves real enterprise problems and we can't wait to iterate on that. |
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For context, the app that I'm considering adding vike to (https://github.com/kinopio-club/kinopio-client) is primarily made by me and one secondary contributor. Although it's received small PRs in the past from other people. from https://vike.dev/pricing#how-does-it-work :
I get the definition of larger projects is |
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That all makes sense but for
So it sounds like vike will have code that evaluates my repo (offline) and then shows the license stuff right ? |
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We weren't approved to use Vike because the company doesn't approve the git history and project being analyzed (I know it's offline). I don't think we can maintain a fork to remove the license check and use the fork how they want without worrying about licenses. I think Vike would be a great tool and I will try to get approved again. For now what can I try that is like Vike? Astro is good but doesn't support Vue templates for SSR on backend. |
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@brillout and team, first off, thanks for the amazing work with Vike, my team finds it super useful. We would love to sponsor the project to show our appreciation. Unfortunately, we can't use the built-in GitHub Sponsors feature because our corporate account is managed externally which restricts us from making payments that way. We know it's not a large amount, but we believe in supporting the tools we rely on. Could you let us know if there are any other platforms or methods we could use to send a monthly contribution? Thanks again. |
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I wanted to provide context for my feedback rather than simply downvoting. I recently discovered this repository while researching alternatives for adopting Nuxt.js patterns in our application without requiring a full re-architecture. This search initially led me to vite-plugin-ssr. After exploring the project, I have some concerns about the business model that I wanted to share constructively: Context: My observations: The commercial model here feels different from what I typically encounter in open-source projects. Projects like Linux, Vite, and Git have demonstrated that community-driven development can thrive without paywalls. While I understand that commercial services like prerender.io exist and serve a purpose, they position themselves clearly as commercial products from the start, which helps teams make informed decisions. Specific concerns:
A genuine question: To be clear: I'd be interested in understanding your perspective on balancing sustainability with community access. |
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The term "Open Source Pricing" is going to confuse and push many people away as they will associate it with proprietary pay software instead of what it is. Since this is really free and open source software under MIT licensing, this mean this monetization scheme amounts to optional/suggested "sponsorship pricing". If you really want to keep all the words of "Open Source Pricing" change it to something clearer like "Open Source Sponsorship Pricing". As for the heuristic to recommend/nag for sponsorship, perhaps you should consider an AI-based approach so it can learn over time. |
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Well in my mind "Open Source Pricing" and many of the other wording implies paying for open source but open source often means free and open source where "free" means freedom implying that though one can charge a price for it but anyone that has access to it can then turn around and do the same at any price including zero so there is little financial incentive for any real pricing. Adding "sponsorship" to the pricing terminology clarifies that one is paying for sponsorship to support the developer(s) and one is not directly paying for the software in general. I do not think "fair" lends any really added value and instead seems to confuse matters as if there might be something to hide. In lieu of "fair" I would use "suggested" as in: "suggested sponsorship pricing". "Open source" really is not necessary in the pricing terminology as far as I see it. |
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We decided to go for this fixed pricing. Vike remains fully accessible (we meticulously designed the pricing to achieve this). (Critical) feedback welcome 👀 |
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We do expect a drop in user adoption, but we aren't interested in building the next gratis framework. We want to build a framework that systematically solves real enterprise problems and we can't wait to iterate on that.